ext_125004 ([identity profile] ellenel13.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] lkh_lashouts2007-05-24 05:39 pm

Narcissus in Chains; because I just won't let that horse die

So, today I began choosing the books I'm going to be taking to my new dorm in a months time and I ran across the old copy of Narcissus in Chains that I rescued from my town's public library soon-to-be-trash bin a few years ago and I couldn't help myself; I actually flipped through the pages. I'm convinced these books have some sort of magnetic pull that entrances people for a few minutes. That's the only thing that can explain their continued success.

Anyway, I ended up wondering about some of the plot points that LKH pretty much forgot about. I only tried to read Ceruleans Sins after that, and I must admit it scarred my psyche, so I maybe she did mention some of this stuff and I just wasn't brave enough to wade through the horrifying attempts at a JC/Asher/Anita "threesome" (JC and Asher need the assistance of a woman to fuck? WTH?). So, I ask those of you who were strong minded enough to deal with the hell that were the next books, did LKH ever do anything with the following plots even if it was only at the "epilogue" at the end of all the books:

The thing with Dolph and his son marrying a vampire. That was the only part of Narcissus in Chains were I was actually interested in what was going on instead of just morbidly fascinated at the sheer badness of the book. Did Anita ever meet with Dolph's wife like she promised to do?

The werefox Jill. And while we're on the subject, why did LKH decide to characterize foxes as cowards? In all the legends I've ever read, foxes were either powerful tricksters and villains or sacred animals. Did LKH do her fox research from Dora the Explorer?

And no, I will not be taking that book with me to college.

[identity profile] witchwillow.livejournal.com 2007-05-26 03:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Geeze.
And it's probably wrong that all I can think, is at least 'Houston' was aware she was putting on a freakshow. Laurmerita doesn't seem to get that at all.

[identity profile] witchwillow.livejournal.com 2007-05-26 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
The power of Popsicle compelled you! Yay!

[identity profile] kyalesyin.livejournal.com 2007-05-26 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Which just makes the whole thing even more disturbing. 'Houston' was at least being paid. What is Anita being paid?

[identity profile] stefflebug.livejournal.com 2007-05-26 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
WTF is this woman on. Because I want to stay the hell away from it.

She can't do that to Peter (futile I know because she already has), not and have it make any sense.

Saying that, I'm not surprised she messed up his age. She probably lost her post-it again and figured that she'd guess.

Not all people who have been raped want rough sex, hell not all people who have been raped want sex full stop. Psychologically he'd probably want to stay the hell away from anyone that could hurt him (read women) and learn how to protect himself/find himself a protector. Not want it good and hard.

Oh wait. Psychologically contains the word logic. It can't apply to LKH's spechal super-pr0n world now can it.

She seriously makes me start foaming at the mouth for retribution. Especially considering how many potentially vulnerable people she could be damaging with this sort of thing.

*headdeak*

[identity profile] longtail.livejournal.com 2007-05-26 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Anita walked in on the handjob...I think it was implied there was much worse that happened before she got there.

And...bleagh. Just, bleagh.

[identity profile] longtail.livejournal.com 2007-05-26 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Anita DID meet with Dolph and family, but it was never written out. It was just glossed over and everyone is still working on it.

I can't tell you anything past IB, and I don't even remember what the plot was in the inbetween all the fuckin'...fucking. I think he pops up now and again, but doesn't do much. Plus I think it's just Gil who's the coward, because he was supposed to be the only werefox in town. I don't know if it's been said that he's a reflection on all foxes.

Re: I tink I thaw a puddy tat!

[identity profile] ditaykan.livejournal.com 2007-05-26 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes... perhaps even in a coma, or with brain-trauma of some sort. And when she comes to, the stress of it all has turned her eyes *gasp* BLUE!

[identity profile] teamlexana.livejournal.com 2007-05-27 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
LOL. Does sound very Anita and Merryish.... except for the fact that the men were aloud female fluffers with kneepads. In LKH's lala land no other females would be aloud within a hundred feet of the nekkid men's family jewels. Anita and Merry with their insane desire for putting things in their mouths would be needed.

[identity profile] teamlexana.livejournal.com 2007-05-27 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
She was?! LKH actually aknowledged other peeps views? Woah. Too bad she didn't dwell on it for too long. :(

[identity profile] ladymuttly1.livejournal.com 2007-05-27 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
According to the massive spoiler on the board Anita refers to her pregnancy scare as 'last year,' so I have no friggin idea of the time frame.

Re: *cough*

[identity profile] ladymuttly1.livejournal.com 2007-05-27 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
Sex. The object of the book was angst and sex. Anita has sex with about a bizillion men and then gets pissed when they look at her as a sex object. Richard and she fight. Micah is perfect. JC and Asher almost get to have a relationship but Micah blocks it.

As far as plot (and I use that word lightly) Anita might be pregnant. JC in a fit of what I assume to be drug induced stupidity invites a vampire ballet that he is sponsoring into St. Louis and then invites MOTC from Chicago, Hollywood, Cape Cod and other places to watch. Instead of watching the ballet everyone gets to watch Anita have sex instead.

The MOAD makes an appearance and is about as useless as every other villan in the place.

That's it. That is the plot. The official explanation of the book is vampire politics. If DM is an example of how vampire politics then I don't know how come they aren't all extinct.

[identity profile] roguetailkinker.livejournal.com 2007-05-27 10:37 am (UTC)(link)
Gah. It should have been:

"Whatever you want, whatever you need,

...unless you say no, in which case too f***ing bad"

[identity profile] roguetailkinker.livejournal.com 2007-05-27 10:47 am (UTC)(link)
Anita and Merry with their insane desire for putting things in their mouths would be needed.

OMG yes. That's what makes it even worse- the monotony. If you're going to write umpteen million sex scenes, at least get a little creative, fercryin'outloud! Have her put Jason over her knee and paddle his butt. Invite (OMG!) another woman to play. Let Jean-Claude and Asher hump like bunnies while Anita eats popcorn and enjoys the show. Do SOMETHING besides P-i-V and deep-throating, please!

Ahem. Rant over. But seriously, LKH's sex scenes come across like an inexperienced teenager who just discovered she can put her mouth on his peepee and OMGthat'ssoKINKY!!!

[identity profile] kyalesyin.livejournal.com 2007-05-27 11:03 am (UTC)(link)
LKH musta had a very shelterd childhood then, since I had that thing figured out by the time I was 15...

[identity profile] teamlexana.livejournal.com 2007-05-27 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL, so true.

I personally think the sex scenes come off as if they were written by a man.

[identity profile] roguetailkinker.livejournal.com 2007-05-27 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Plus I think it's just Gil who's the coward, because he was supposed to be the only werefox in town. I don't know if it's been said that he's a reflection on all foxes.

That was the way I understood it- poor ol' Gil is just scared of everybody. Personally I love the idea of werefoxes, but unfortunately I suspect we won't be seeing much more of poor Gil. But that may be a good thing, considering the way Anita treated him. Sorry, but I don't consider it badass or impressive to threaten somebody who's scared of their own shadow. It's just being a bully, and that disgusts me more than any amount of gratuitous monkey sex. :P

Re: *cough*

[identity profile] teamlexana.livejournal.com 2007-05-27 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Is it just me or did JC really just come off as a pimp in DM? He's even got Anita refering to him as her master now.

Re: *cough*

[identity profile] ladymuttly1.livejournal.com 2007-05-27 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually I couldn't decide if JC was the pimp or if Micah was the pimp. Everytime something almost happened in the book, Micah would remind everyone that the ardeur needed to be fed which is, of course, a euphamism for group sex.

Re: *cough*

[identity profile] teamlexana.livejournal.com 2007-05-28 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
But Micah is just there to do whatever it is that mistress Anita wishes. The only times I remember him encouraging her to have sex with another partner that didn't involve him being just all "I don't mind sloppy seconds or thirds or fourths or fifths..." was with Nathaniel. JC on the otherhand... he actually wants her to find lovers and at the begining of DM brings in some peeps for Anita to interview for a spot in her bed and chaos insues. Oh, JC says that those fools went out of line and if he had known how things were going to go down then he wouldn't have done it.... but I just don't believe him. JC is also the only person that I can remember Anita asking if certain lovers were okay for her to sleep with and who should be off limits.

[identity profile] rozasharn.livejournal.com 2007-06-01 06:56 am (UTC)(link)
I've been thinking since about Merry-Gentry book three that LKH's proper medium would be television. She's stopped writing self-contained stories with a plot arc that resolves neatly at the end (which is what novels are supposed to be). Now she's writing stories that continue seamlessly from one book to the next, have tons of plotlines, and never really resolve anything. That's the description of soap operas. If these stories were presented as TV shows then the short, frequent updates would work much better.

Re: I tink I thaw a puddy tat!

[identity profile] rozasharn.livejournal.com 2007-06-01 07:03 am (UTC)(link)
That actually makes a lot of sense. I don't like the idea of our main character being tortured in front of us for several books, but the mindwhammy idea would make it possible to have Anita revert to her original self--albeit perhaps a much more paranoid and cynical self.

[identity profile] vmisery.livejournal.com 2007-06-01 07:06 am (UTC)(link)
It keeps people watching/buying, though, I guess that's the important thing. :/ Hell, it's even worked to a degree for me, I won't buy the books anymore but I still read them looking for some kind of resolution. Although, there's only so long you can string along an audience before they get frustrated at the lack of a satisfying climax, give up, and go somewhere else.

It's amazing when an author can give you the effect of unfulfilling sex in more than one way, isn't it?

[identity profile] colubra.livejournal.com 2008-08-07 06:50 am (UTC)(link)
A talentless man, at that.

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