[identity profile] christwriter.livejournal.com
Greetings, all. I've been a LOOOOOOOOOONG time lurker but this is my first post in a while, and I got a question.



I've got a blog where I flog books, and I FINALLY got around to NIC--it is the book that broke me on the Anita Blake series, HARD--and I'm at what I THOUGHT was the infamous Micah-shower-rape scene, but when I was re-reading some of the posts around here, I started getting this funky feeling, because that's not how I remember the book running.

I'm using the e-book edition because it's what I have access to and it makes flogging a lot easier. Here's the sequence of events I have:

Chapter nine: Anita wakes up after the weresnake battle in the knife room with a bunch of other naked people. She seduces Micah into letting her feed on him, as in drink blood, to slake Jean Claude's hunger. There are mentions of Micah being "trapped" between their bodies, so unless this became a threesome no actual sexing occured in chapter 9. Also, may I add that this entire scene MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER and creeps me out to no end.

Chapter 10: Anita is crying in the shower.

Chapter 11: Anita and Micah do have sex, and she tells him no, please don't, no birth control, ect. ect.

However, the first comment on this post here implies that the sex/rape scene happens before Anita is crying in the shower:

the sex scene with Micah is different in the hardcover version. In that version, Anita tells Micah 'no' two or three times, and begs him not to do anything, because she's not on birth control, and he says something to the effect of "I know you want me, i can smell it" and had sex with her anyway...then in the following chapter, Anita sat in the shower crying, because logically 'no-means-no=she was raped'. They edited it later for the paperback to make it more consensual.


In the edition I read, the chapter preceeding the shower scene, Jean Claude pressured Anita into seducing Micah...I think. In the chapter following Anita and Micah having actual sex, 12, Nathaniel is taking Anita home. No shower. I have no way to get my hands on a hardcopy version of the book, and I blocked my memories of reading it the first time. so am I just reading it wrong? Or did something get changed?
[identity profile] sweetalbatross.livejournal.com
Well, I was a fool and tried to read NiC.

Made it 200 pages, stopped, and banished the four books I owned to backs of my case right with SMeyer's work. Which did not hurt my head as much btw

Cut for ranting and some TMI )
[identity profile] sweetalbatross.livejournal.com
I found a bunch of the Anita books in my friend's shed and she said I could take a few. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone could tell me which book or books had the creepy Pedo-Anita/wimpy Nathaniel dynamic. I wanna read them for the squicky lulz. Thanks in advance!
[identity profile] kynekh-amagire.livejournal.com
On a rainy-day "surely it's not as bad as I remember"/"this book pissed me off but now I can't recall why and it's bugging me*" reread of Narcissus in Chains, I found myself dog-earing pages again, as I did with Danse Macabre, whenever a line sort of leapt out at me as especially obnoxious. PRESENTED HERE FOR YOUR READING PLEASURE SOMETHING-OR-OTHER...

Page numbers are from the 1st-edition paperback, alternately known as the less rapey version of the text.

ONWARD CAME THE METEORS. )

Hopefully, having written all this down, I won't need to read the damn thing again for a while. I'm scared to go back and check on the pre-ardooer volumes: I suspect that even if the plot/characterization was less forced and borderline offensively stupid before NiC, the writing and dialogue was just as stilted and awkward.


* SO MANY REASONS.
[identity profile] glimmerfox.livejournal.com
She also goes into a few other details of Narcissus in Chains and the rumor that Micah=Jonboi.  This interview has more details on that than any other that I've seen.  Ans she actually admits that she wanted Micah for Anita because during the writing she felt so lonely and didn't want Anita to be lonely.  So of course instead of having Anita run to Richard, or Jean-Claude for comfort, she should turn to the guy who raped her in the shower. 

Again it's an old interview, at this time her newest book is Danse Macabre, but it is a good read.

www.flamesrising.com/laurell-k-hamilton-interview-horror-author/

[identity profile] kerame.livejournal.com
 If LKH was trying to show us that werewolves are inherently unable to deal with democracy, I don't think she illustrated her point very well.

Was voting Anita out of the pack supposed to prove that to readers? I thought it showed that the other werewolves had the sense of self-respect that Richard loses around Anita.

They were right to reject the non werewolf lupa who betrayed their king  the very night he took the throne because she found him, and thus all werewolves disgusting. On top of this betrayal, they are then expected to share their disloyal non-werewolf queen with the vampires who feed on them, and the leopards, their former torturers?

As for Jacob, he fought his way up the pack through the old combat system. Richard retained popular support. If anything, this shows that Richard should have retained a modified form of democracy, and altered the rules for combat to qualify that the wolves would have to win their battles through non-lethal force, as he had.
[identity profile] denouement16.livejournal.com

I have a question about LKH and NiC that I can't seem to find an answer to.

Question )
[identity profile] ellenel13.livejournal.com
So, today I began choosing the books I'm going to be taking to my new dorm in a months time and I ran across the old copy of Narcissus in Chains that I rescued from my town's public library soon-to-be-trash bin a few years ago and I couldn't help myself; I actually flipped through the pages. I'm convinced these books have some sort of magnetic pull that entrances people for a few minutes. That's the only thing that can explain their continued success.

Anyway, I ended up wondering about some of the plot points that LKH pretty much forgot about. I only tried to read Ceruleans Sins after that, and I must admit it scarred my psyche, so I maybe she did mention some of this stuff and I just wasn't brave enough to wade through the horrifying attempts at a JC/Asher/Anita "threesome" (JC and Asher need the assistance of a woman to fuck? WTH?). So, I ask those of you who were strong minded enough to deal with the hell that were the next books, did LKH ever do anything with the following plots even if it was only at the "epilogue" at the end of all the books:

The thing with Dolph and his son marrying a vampire. That was the only part of Narcissus in Chains were I was actually interested in what was going on instead of just morbidly fascinated at the sheer badness of the book. Did Anita ever meet with Dolph's wife like she promised to do?

The werefox Jill. And while we're on the subject, why did LKH decide to characterize foxes as cowards? In all the legends I've ever read, foxes were either powerful tricksters and villains or sacred animals. Did LKH do her fox research from Dora the Explorer?

And no, I will not be taking that book with me to college.
[identity profile] clover-elf-kin.livejournal.com
I was just showing some friends the rape sex scene with Micah in Narcissus in Chains, and remembered that a friend of mine says it was even worse in the hardcover version. All I have access to is the paperback, and we're curious now: what exactly was changed between the two versions? If someone can sum it up, or better yet, type up a few sentences of the worst of it, I would be most appreciative!
[identity profile] ellenel13.livejournal.com
Since NiC is one of the three LKH books I actually own and this is a boring Saturday, I've decided to share with you guys the most WTF? quotes of the entire book. LKH in itlics, me normal.


Well, something is wrong with my cut . . .
[identity profile] demoncougar.livejournal.com
Okay, I admit here and now I'm too sick and tired to go look up page numbers. If anyone wants me to, I shall do so some other time, when I can breathe well.

I've been re-reading the entire AB:VH series. And...wow, the devolution is so apparent when you read each book back-to-back. I mean, for a while there was...so much potential...and then it went away. :P Plus (and this is the reason for this post) it seems like LKH has begun making some HUGE mistakes. Not just spelling/grammar errors (which get so numerous it HURTS. Eventually in the series the woman can't properly place a comma to fucking SAVE HER LIFE) but character mistakes. BIG character mistakes.

spoilers if you haven't read Narcissus In Chains ahoy... )
[identity profile] windiain.livejournal.com
I thought some of you might appreciate this for a giggle. I'm running a photo challenge on my LJ at the moment, and I got a request for a bunny on a book. So, I hoiked my rabbit (Hastings) out of the cage, and then hooked a decent sized hardback off the shelf that I wouldn't mind an 'accident' happening on (which happened to be Narcissus in Chains, but don't worry, I only paid £1 for it). Sure enough, during the photoshoot, we can see that Hastings proves himself to have fantastic taste, and tells us exactly what he, and many other suffering Anita Blake fans, think of the book.

NiC is a pile of doodoo! Even cute, furry creatures can see it! )

I'll be getting onto those other pics you want doing in a mo, [livejournal.com profile] pith.

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