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The Barnes & Noble interview in its entirety can be found here (opens in a new window).
LKH is in blockquote italics, I'm...decidedly not.
And again, dude, just becasue you finish it doesn't mean that it's going to be any good.
DEATH TO THIS WOMAN!!! DEEEAAAATH!!!
I'm sorry sweetheart, but things don't work that way. I don't know about other writers, but if I need to know about 14th century womens underwear and haven't a clue as to what it is - I can't just leave it alone and keep pushing forward. If it's that much of a plot-point, I'll at the very least google it to see what's going on.
And then the fun of actual research begins. Because finding out what 14th century womens underwear is in France might be different from the Russians. Or it could be more interesting to have Chinese underwear. And just this one thing could open up all sorts of new possibilities and directions for the narrative to go. It could enrich the story! MAKE IT BETTER!
But if it doesn't, hey - at least you know what 14th century womens underwear is and can write about it with some kind of authenticity.
Also, if you finish the damned story/book and then have to go back and look things up - how clumsy is that? What happens if you find out what you're researching clashes and suddenlys crews things up? Sure, you can force your story to work, but wouldn't it be better to write the scene, see where it's going and if it suddenly doesn't make sense, sit and plot around it or try and find an alternative that works?
It that too crazy beyond words?
I'll be the first to admit that I have problems finishing things, but in my own defence it's because I get distracted by shiny things. And plot bunnies. I get an idea in my head, write out as much of it as I can, then get another and so on and so forth.
But I have finished things. Including one and a half extremely bad novels that I wrote back in high school. It's a nice feeling to finish, but going b ack and rereading what I wrote? EGAD. THE HORROR.
Sorry, LKH, but you fail horribly about that advice about getting things finished. I know this from personal experience. Most writers I know wouldn't do this.
Ya know, if this is how she writes her books, this totally explains the quality decline. She probably has sticky notes on the wall behind her computer and maybe a question mark next to preferred sexual position of the characters involved, then she writes the porn, skims over it and declares it perfect and moves on.
Totally explains everything.
*facepalm*
Being a pain the arse and a persistent one will usually win the day. That, and a good literary agent.
. . .
No, I really did read that.
But of course, perfection is totally reasonable for her. She'sAnita Blake LKH. She is, by simply exisitng, perfectionismistness itself.
I've found having my friends read stuff to be the best feedback EVAH. Specially other writers. And if your friends don't write, then join a writing group. And barring that, there's the internet - but omg, fanfiction.net does not count.
Rejection hurts. Sure. But you deal with it and you move on.
Though, it's probably safe to say that even if you do unleash a flock offlying monkeys manuscripts on publishers and one by one they get rejected? Not going to soothe the hurt.
Also, it seems a bit creepy to be calling your stories literary children. I know there are writers out there that are all, "OMG MY PRECIOUS BAAAAABY!" but...when she puts it that way, I just want to start calling my fics names. Like Timmy, the Short Story. Timmy has no teeth, a forked tongue, glows in the dark and other mutations because I'm that kind of author. Or, Timmy will look like Freakish Kitty.
Believe in yourself, sure, work hard and keep at it - but don't be so obsessive that you turn into one of those crazy homeless people and peddle your manuscript in a trolley.
It's things like these that make me stop listening to big-name authors trying to give advice. I've sat in on lectures, gone to the Writers' Festival to hear guest speakers, frequented dingey pubs late at night (though, Spoke 'n' Slurred was fun. I won rubber chickens!) and sit on two editing committees for student anthologies.
The best advice I've gotten are from people who work in faculty, or were students and published books for the university and then went into the industry themselves. The best advice I've gotten has been from other writers trying to break into the business. From friends. And a lot of Joss Whedon and J. Michael Staczynski dvd commentaries. But in all fairness, these two know how to shape a series and plot out characters and arcs that keep people hooked.
LKH is in blockquote italics, I'm...decidedly not.
Write. You'd be surprised how many wanna-be writers never seem to do that.As a wannabe writer, I try to do this as much as I can. But then, it also helps that I'm unemployed and practically broke. It's nice to write. But that doesn't mean that what I write will be any good. There's a reason why I write things out long-hand and then type things up. There's a reason why I have a draft folder on the computer. Some of the crap that I've written will never be gazed upon by mortal eyes. NEVAH.
Write, then finish it. Finish the story. Finish the book. Do two pages a day, every day.Again, I guess it helps if you either do not have any sleep, or are unemployed. Because with most people, there's this pesky life thing that gets in the way.
And again, dude, just becasue you finish it doesn't mean that it's going to be any good.
Do not revise as you go. If you come to something you don't know, like what does 14th century underwear look like, put a note, skip it, and keep writing.askdjfls;aal;
DEATH TO THIS WOMAN!!! DEEEAAAATH!!!
I'm sorry sweetheart, but things don't work that way. I don't know about other writers, but if I need to know about 14th century womens underwear and haven't a clue as to what it is - I can't just leave it alone and keep pushing forward. If it's that much of a plot-point, I'll at the very least google it to see what's going on.
And then the fun of actual research begins. Because finding out what 14th century womens underwear is in France might be different from the Russians. Or it could be more interesting to have Chinese underwear. And just this one thing could open up all sorts of new possibilities and directions for the narrative to go. It could enrich the story! MAKE IT BETTER!
But if it doesn't, hey - at least you know what 14th century womens underwear is and can write about it with some kind of authenticity.
Also, if you finish the damned story/book and then have to go back and look things up - how clumsy is that? What happens if you find out what you're researching clashes and suddenlys crews things up? Sure, you can force your story to work, but wouldn't it be better to write the scene, see where it's going and if it suddenly doesn't make sense, sit and plot around it or try and find an alternative that works?
It that too crazy beyond words?
I hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth, but trust me I've met too many writers that have the perfect three chapters of their book, but nothing more. Three chapters isn't a book, it's a beginning -- finish it. Once you have hundreds of pages on the other side of your computer, then go through and fill in those blank spots with research. Now, you can look up how to undress your 14th century heroine. Now you can chorography that fight scene.Yeah, uh, see above rant about research. I'd rather have written three good chapters that make sense than have an entire book and find out halfway through my research that what I've written makes no sense or is suddenly rendered moot.
I'll be the first to admit that I have problems finishing things, but in my own defence it's because I get distracted by shiny things. And plot bunnies. I get an idea in my head, write out as much of it as I can, then get another and so on and so forth.
But I have finished things. Including one and a half extremely bad novels that I wrote back in high school. It's a nice feeling to finish, but going b ack and rereading what I wrote? EGAD. THE HORROR.
Sorry, LKH, but you fail horribly about that advice about getting things finished. I know this from personal experience. Most writers I know wouldn't do this.
If you spend more than a week on a scene, maybe two days, skip it, write a note that says, fight scene here. You know who wins, just move on, keep going.I'll agree that if something takes more than a week to write, set it aside and come back to it later. There's no point in agonising over it for aaages.
The second draft is just filling in the blank notes. The third draft is where you begin to edit, and polish the writing.It...is? No really, what? My second edit is usually finding all the words I misspelled and cleaning up my abused commas. The third is when I hand it to someone else to look at because they can find all the things I missed.
Ya know, if this is how she writes her books, this totally explains the quality decline. She probably has sticky notes on the wall behind her computer and maybe a question mark next to preferred sexual position of the characters involved, then she writes the porn, skims over it and declares it perfect and moves on.
Totally explains everything.
*facepalm*
I did seven drafts of my first book, and I wrote it just like I've described. It sold. Most first novels don't.And this is a truth.
Being a pain the arse and a persistent one will usually win the day. That, and a good literary agent.
My way is not the only way, heaven knows, but it's the way that allowed me to write my first five to six books....okay, that's scary because the first five to six books were actually the good ones.
I've gotten better at my job, and I no longer need seven drafts to get it where I want to be.Course, as she got better at her job, her ego grew out of proportion and englufed her iddle world. And thus the need once more for seven drafts.
But I find even today, as I write my seventeenth novel, that if I spend more than a week on a scene, I'm stuck, and I need to move on. Perfectionism has set in, and I'm trying to make it perfect. Perfection is an unattainable goal -- trust me on that.*cough*
. . .
No, I really did read that.
But of course, perfection is totally reasonable for her. She's
Just write, try not to worry, and when it's done, send it out. Try to sell it. For money. Not copies, not for friends to read. Sell it. This is a business, not a charity. Remember that. Your goal is to earn a living writing what you most love, right? Well, if that's your goal, act like it.Yeah, the part she's leaving out is about getting a literary agent to do most of the calling around for you. Because most publishers will not accept an unsolicited manuscript.
I've found having my friends read stuff to be the best feedback EVAH. Specially other writers. And if your friends don't write, then join a writing group. And barring that, there's the internet - but omg, fanfiction.net does not count.
I always started at the highest paying appropriate market for my short stories, and then worked down as they got rejected. I'm assuming that you have researched your markets and aren't trying to send vampire stories to magazines that don't even buy fiction. It's a business, remember. Sending your stories to inappropriate markets is like showing up for a job interview because you really want to edit fiction books, but you've walked into a computer-engineering firm. They don't edit fiction books there. Sending your story to the wrong market is the same deal.Again, dude, literary agent. That's what you're paying them to do. And if they do a crappy job, then you get another one that hopefully has a clue.
Here's another important piece of advice: send the story, or book out, then get started on the next one. Don't fret, and hover around the mailbox angsting over that one story. It's like a mother with one child -- you worry more. So have more literary children, that way when one is rejected you know that there are others out there, that haven't been. It takes some of the sting out of the rejection process. Not a lot, but some....er, no, it doesn't. [/personal wangst]
Rejection hurts. Sure. But you deal with it and you move on.
Though, it's probably safe to say that even if you do unleash a flock of
Also, it seems a bit creepy to be calling your stories literary children. I know there are writers out there that are all, "OMG MY PRECIOUS BAAAAABY!" but...when she puts it that way, I just want to start calling my fics names. Like Timmy, the Short Story. Timmy has no teeth, a forked tongue, glows in the dark and other mutations because I'm that kind of author. Or, Timmy will look like Freakish Kitty.
You've got to want this more than any other job, and you've got to toughen your ego, so that the business doesn't crush you. Be tough. Believe in yourself and your dreams....I'd believe in the sentimental value of that statement more if I didn't have this dire need to eat, which costs money and therefore need some kind of employment. Sadly, writing is not doing that for me. So instead of starving and suffering for my art, I'd rather get a job, buy a new computer and forego that thing called sleep in order to keep my writerly habits.
Believe in yourself, sure, work hard and keep at it - but don't be so obsessive that you turn into one of those crazy homeless people and peddle your manuscript in a trolley.
It's things like these that make me stop listening to big-name authors trying to give advice. I've sat in on lectures, gone to the Writers' Festival to hear guest speakers, frequented dingey pubs late at night (though, Spoke 'n' Slurred was fun. I won rubber chickens!) and sit on two editing committees for student anthologies.
The best advice I've gotten are from people who work in faculty, or were students and published books for the university and then went into the industry themselves. The best advice I've gotten has been from other writers trying to break into the business. From friends. And a lot of Joss Whedon and J. Michael Staczynski dvd commentaries. But in all fairness, these two know how to shape a series and plot out characters and arcs that keep people hooked.