[identity profile] x-trickster-x.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] lkh_lashouts
We're all agreed that the ardeur is essentially mystic date-rape, right? I mean, the men can't really consent to it and to make matters worse they can become addicted to it. But... I recently whilst watching Law and Order: SVU I wondered, what would actually happen if one of Anita's harem actually realised it was rape? 

This is assuming, of course, they're not blindly in love with the Doom Crotch. Or even what would happen if someone grew a spine and actually pointed out that it was rape? I know that LKH wouldn't dare put Anita in a situation like that because she evidently doesn't think it's rape and besides, Anita's a blatent self-insert. 

But supposing Anita's world was real or that LKH had half a brain, what would the consequences be for Anita if someone actually spoke up and said that she had raped them and how would she react? How would you deal with something like the ardeur in the real world?

Date: 2007-12-31 04:03 pm (UTC)
pith: (LKH-wankthedragon)
From: [personal profile] pith
Was it in an Anita book or a Jim Butcher book where it was briefly mentioned that "magical crimes" were punished quite harshly? Probably Anita, because magicy stuff isn't that outed in Dresden-land, I don't think.

I know there was a L&O:SVU episode with the subplot of the guy who raped his girlfriend's sister in his sleep (the Another Youniverse ep?), and since his was a medical condition, there wasn't much that the law could do, I believe. But in the case of the ardeur, where Anita is "aware" when she's doing things and can plan ahead... yeah, I'd like to see some legal ramifications.

Cue Dolph on his anti-monster crusade!

Date: 2007-12-31 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymuttly1.livejournal.com
IIRC the penalty for using witchcraft against someone's will is death in the AB world.

Date: 2007-12-31 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellozombies.livejournal.com
I think it was stated in the book where Anita murderedwhoops, accidentally killed the voodoo priestess (I forget her name). That it only takes days for them to decide upon execution, and that it's exacted immediately for magical crimes.

Interesting thoughts.
Edited Date: 2007-12-31 04:35 pm (UTC)

Date: 2007-12-31 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymuttly1.livejournal.com
Ahh the good old days where there were actually consequences (or at least the risk thereof) for a character's actions.

Date: 2008-01-02 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roguetailkinker.livejournal.com
I'm pretty sure it was only murder by magic that got a death sentence. According to TH, using vampire tricks, witchcraft, or telepathy to gain information is illegal, but she never mentioned the actual penalty.

(It still pisses me off the the cow was trying to threaten Sampson for using mermaid tricks to get info. Sampson, who is one of the few nice people left in the books. And he hadn't hurt anyone! How many times has she done far worse? Gah, the hypocrisy makes me see red!)

Date: 2007-12-31 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baeraad.livejournal.com
Was it in an Anita book or a Jim Butcher book where it was briefly mentioned that "magical crimes" were punished quite harshly?

Both, I think. The White Council in Butcher's world beheads anyone who violates people's minds with magic. And while I can't remember the penalty for mind control in the Anitaverse, I seem to recall that the penalty for causing someone's death with magic is instant execution.

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