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[x-trickster-x.livejournal.com]

We're all agreed that the ardeur is essentially mystic date-rape, right? I mean, the men can't really consent to it and to make matters worse they can become addicted to it. But... I recently whilst watching Law and Order: SVU I wondered, what would actually happen if one of Anita's harem actually realised it was rape? 

This is assuming, of course, they're not blindly in love with the Doom Crotch. Or even what would happen if someone grew a spine and actually pointed out that it was rape? I know that LKH wouldn't dare put Anita in a situation like that because she evidently doesn't think it's rape and besides, Anita's a blatent self-insert. 

But supposing Anita's world was real or that LKH had half a brain, what would the consequences be for Anita if someone actually spoke up and said that she had raped them and how would she react? How would you deal with something like the ardeur in the real world?

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[kerame.livejournal.com]

The way LKH deals with this is by character assassinating Dolf, and insisting that he needs "therapy", just like every character who dares to criticize Anita.

He has every reason to distrust a Marshall who's fucking the entire monster power structure, but instead of dealing with that, she turns him into yet another character with personal problems which he takes out on Anita.

[kd-lalala.livejournal.com]

Exactly, which I noticed is her way of dealing with anyone who might actually call Anita on her bullshit. *nodnod* Either dead or a bad guy.

[darkese.livejournal.com]

The main problem in trying to figure out what should happen to AB because of the ardeur (should she be arrested or killed?) is that the problem has gone on for so long with so many HUGE holes in logic that it's impossible to untangle the mess. She's a marshall but shouldn't be, she is raped by the ardeur but acts like it isn't rape, she rapes others but considers it good fun, she isn't human, isn't lycan, isn't vampire but has all the bonuses of them - and it goes on and on.

Pull on one thread with some logic and all the rest has to come unraveled. The whole series is just a soupy mastabatory mary sue fantasy.

[kd-lalala.livejournal.com]

Yea, I suppose I'm simply voicing something rather than actually looking for a viable explanation, since really there isn't one.

It just bothers me with these books, plain and simple. It bothers me that Anita actually used to be someone you could believe in upholding the law. It didn't last long, but for a while she was a powerful woman in a world where two forces, the human world and the supernatural world were making an effort to co exist, who officially served a purpose, defending people from the bad guys in the preternatural world. At the same time she was also a part of that world, relating and even sympathizing with some of the 'monsters', and over the course of the early series she had to start blurring her lines about what made a human and what made a monster.

That's what she started out as. It bothers me that LKH holds her up as someone to be looked up to, like she's actually a moral figure in a way, when she's NOT, not as she is now, but she -could- have been.

[darkese.livejournal.com]

What used to make the monsters so dangerous were they could be so seductive to a human. AB/LKH just got horny and said 'screw it'. No further explanation needed.