[identity profile] watersheerie.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] lkh_lashouts
So I vaguely remember LKH saying something about how black people couldn't become vampires due to some sort of bizarre difference in blood. Does anyone know the quotes and book it comes from?

Thanks.
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Date: 2009-12-14 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evewithanapple.livejournal.com
I thought that was Stephenie Meyer?

Date: 2009-12-14 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calenture.livejournal.com
Twilight has at least one black vampire, so it's not her.

Date: 2009-12-14 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alphafem.livejournal.com
You are right, there is something about no black vampires in one of the Anita Blake books. I'm sorry I don't remember which one, but if it helps you narrow your search down, I stopped reading them after Obsidian Butterfly, so it has to be in one of the first 8 (?) of the series.

Date: 2009-12-14 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frabjously.livejournal.com
o.O

I have never heard about this and I've been following LKH wtfery for a while now. It doesn't really seem like LKH's brand of crazy (since she's all about the "not quite white bread"), but I'd be interested in a source wherever it's from.

Date: 2009-12-14 03:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frabjously.livejournal.com
No, in Meyer's world, no matter what skin color you are you will immediately become white when turned into a Meyerpyre.

This would be hilarious if it weren't so fail.
Edited Date: 2009-12-14 03:08 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-12-14 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] putana.livejournal.com
omgwtfpolarbears?! It must have just been in passing as I can't really remember it.

Date: 2009-12-14 03:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pd-singer.livejournal.com
Check the fight scene at the end of CS re MOAD servants.

Date: 2009-12-14 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rin-x-x.livejournal.com
In the movies there is, but Laurent isn't described as black in the books. He's not really described at all. The existence of a non-white vampie doesn't show up, from what I can recall, doesn't show up until the very last book.

From South America. Because apparently thats how far you need to go to find non-white people in the Meyerverse. *rolls eyes*

Date: 2009-12-14 03:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telaryn.livejournal.com
I remember it too - it wasn't that they *couldn't* - it was just really rare. She described the black vampire's skin as "ashy".

Date: 2009-12-14 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wonderbink.livejournal.com
As I recall, yeah, it wasn't that black vampires were impossible, it was something about how the same genetic glitch that leads to sickle-cell anemia (but also protects against malaria in recessive form) made people resistant to contracting vampirism. (I have to admit, I thought that was a pretty clever detail.)

But I'm afraid I don't recall which book it was from, since they all get to be a bit of a blur to me.

Date: 2009-12-14 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magdalen77.livejournal.com
It was pretty early on, but the people who say it's just very rare are right. There was some reason that black people almost never get it. The real reason is that LKH isn't attracted to black men and the books are all about what she thinks is hawt. It's amazing to me that she can write about major American cities and rarely have anyone in her books who aren't white.

Date: 2009-12-14 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pearkiwi.livejournal.com
Chapter 45, CS.

"He was also one of the few Black vampires I'd ever seen. Some people theorized that the same genetics that made many people of African descent immune to malaria also made them less likely to become vampires. He stood there looking at me, with his dark skin still somehow strangely pale, like chocolate ivory. His eyes were golden yellow, and the moment I looked into them, the words not human came to mind."

I think there's a mention an earlier book, too.

Date: 2009-12-14 04:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlredreign.livejournal.com
I thought that there was a black female vamp in Seraphina's kiss...well, it was one of the rotting ones that freaked Jason out in Bloody Bones.

And the thing about people of African descent being immune to malaria...guess my dad missed that memo. And I guess LKH forgot about the horse pills they gave to ALL service members that were in-country in Vietnam. *shakes head*

Date: 2009-12-14 04:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sekaigo.livejournal.com
his dark skin still somehow strangely pale, like chocolate ivory

.....

Date: 2009-12-14 05:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poor-toms-acold.livejournal.com
Both the rotting vamps were white - one was blonde and one was brunette.

Date: 2009-12-14 05:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlredreign.livejournal.com
Huh. Been awhile since I read that one. A long while. It was one of the better books, I thought.

Date: 2009-12-14 05:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poor-toms-acold.livejournal.com
It was one of my favourites, which is why I remember! :-)

Date: 2009-12-14 06:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mitrian.livejournal.com
It's on page 304 in the hardcover.

And the genetics she likely means here would be sickle-cell anemia.

Date: 2009-12-14 06:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tehuti.livejournal.com
The color of a black vampire's skin. Duh. :-P

Date: 2009-12-14 06:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tehuti.livejournal.com
People of African descent aren't immune to malaria, but they do have a higher resistance to it. It's fairly well established in medicine, IIRC.

Date: 2009-12-14 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwg.livejournal.com
Like other people said, it's not that they couldn't, and the books did have some black vampires in the beginning -- Buzz, the bouncer of Guilty Pleasures, Nikolaos had a black vampire as one of her minions (but he was unnamed), Yasmeen in Circus of the Damned, Kissa in Bloody Bones...eh, I got the feeling she was some other ethnicity, I'm not sure. It seems weird to include characters like these and then to turn around and say no! they're very rare, but then...I call into question everything put in the books post-Narcissus, as this is where the "murder victim zombies will go on a homicidal rampage to kill their killers!" cropped up and series canon (what little there was, anyway) got thrown out the window.

So it's entirely possible that LKH just forgot that she wrote these other characters that were black by the time she got to CS. It's happened before, like she forgot that Asher smoked.

Either way, I'd put a big question mark over this and take it with a very big pinch of salt. It's entirely possible that a later book will totally contradict this.

Date: 2009-12-14 07:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] putana.livejournal.com
We have to make a post one day where we take the WFT-ery things from Anita Blake and actually try and replicate them for realz. Because just...WOT?

Date: 2009-12-14 07:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denelian.livejournal.com
i just have to say;

i'm sticking with porphyria as the genetic quark that protects against vampirism :D
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