blog flog: 9 February 2005

[pith]

link: http://www.eridine.com/blog/2005_02_01_archive.html#110796173597516136
title: "The Guest Book"
date: 9 February 2005

And another big flaming WTF-award goes to Jonathan!


First of all... dude, learn how to spell. Use a spell check, at the very least. If I had a dollar for every spelling error in this post... well, at least it would recoup some of the money I wasted on Narcissus in Chains.

It became a hotbed of negitivity and name calling. If this was in the official forums, the offending parties would have been banned, the post moderated and everything kept nice and civil.

Nice to know they fully endorse freedom of speech and everything.

You know, they should be grateful that people are griping in plain sight. Then, if they bothered to care, they could see what fans (and yes, many of us are still fans, in our own ways) truly thought. Now they'll just drive all the snark underground, where it will fester and grow and get even stronger because of it. Remember in Star Wars, when Princess Leia said "The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers" [pp]? Yeah. It's gonna be like that. And do you remember who WON at the end? That's right. The Rebel Alliance. Not the evil Empire. Let's hope for a similar result here.*

* = NB: I love Darth Vader. I am in no way trying to say that LKH and her people are half as cool, organized, or efficient as the Empire.

Comments

[nanale.livejournal.com]

Hmmm, if I understand it right, he complained about their/his own forum. So I don't know what he thinks is an official forum[s], since both are free accessible AND it's the board of the author...(is there anything more official?)
If they exclude everyone,who snarks, rants or criticizes, they'll withdraw themselves into LKH's famous ivory tower. The books will become worse than they are now, thanks to all the "Laurell, don't listen to them, because I understood what you said" people. But if they can't stand a normal critic, it says more over them as they probably think.
*Sorry, I worked too much during the last weeks and I'm little bit confused*

[dwg.livejournal.com]

Uhhh. Huuuhn. Roiiight.

I'm still trying to figure out what he's trying to say here. I can understand if he's fed up with people that lack the typing skills to properly articulate their opinions. But alas, this doesn't seem to concern so many people as it should.

I can understand that some people may be so incensed, or even too young, to come up with a criticism more polite or witty than "U 5uX0r!!!!one one one!" and others may not actually live in this plane of reality.

But getting pissed off that the guestbook is being overrun by people that don't leave messages that don't say nice things? Um, it's impossible to be universally liked, so penalising those who don't share that opinion is fairly juvenille. Nobody's ever won at schoolyard tactics.

but expect a change. and proably one that is less pleasent for you, the readers.

One thing I've learned both as a member and a moderator is that while it may be fun to have a bit of a flame war, stooping to the same level as those you're against won't get you anywhere.

If he moves it all to an "official" forum, the moderators (if they're good) won't step in to quash all the negative opinions. They'll put a member that might be flaming in their place, but they sure as hell shouldn't deny the rest of the posters the chance to voice their opinion. Course, then there's those mods that flame, delete and ban people that don't share their ideal. Been there, dealt with them - it lead to mass quitting by nearly all the members and lead to the death of the forum.

And just as an aside, if everyone has the same opinion - things get boring very quickly. *book snicker* Woah, maybe LKH is coming down with a case of the Belle Mortes?

I now have an urge to leave a message in the book. Polite, but negative.

[nanale.livejournal.com]

But getting pissed off that the guestbook is being overrun by people that don't leave messages that don't say nice things?
I think he has more problems with the guest book becoming a second forum. I think I saw people fight with each other over several pages. But even this shouldn't be such a problem or am I wrong?? I never moderated a forum and don't join too many of them, so there's a certain lack of experience. Still, I don't think, that it's so complicated...
If he moves it all to an "official" forum, the moderators (if they're good) won't step in to quash all the negative opinions.
Our dear Jon sees it the other way round, he likes the idea of moderators banning people and other forum members keeping the oh so negative folks under control. (sorry for my flimsy grammar)

[dwg.livejournal.com]

I'm just thinking of a little function called "delete" - moderators and/or guestbook owners have the power to delete messages. If he was going to manage the guestbook properly, most of the arguments over pages and pages really should have been deleted.

PS. Meh, don't worry about your flimsy grammar. It's legiable. That counts.

[harpergrey.livejournal.com]

In other words, this is proably going to offend most of you.

(Ignoring... urge... to correct spelling... Gyah!) Really? Why? I don't understand what exactly about this post is in any way offensive to anyone -- and that includes the people he's trying to complain about. If he wanted to be offensive, he could at least have called them something creatively nasty. (Or perhaps I'm crediting him with too much creativity.)

Pith said: Now they'll just drive all the snark underground, where it will fester and grow and get even stronger because of it.

As evidenced by our underground snarking community. Mwa ha ha ha!!

Frankly...

[saadiira.livejournal.com]

I can see wanting to leave the guest book as that, and asking that they go elsewhere to snark. But then, they cut off any way to do that, by moderating it right off the site, or did I miss something?

Then, someone said they pulled reviews from Amazon, but I just checked, and they are still there, in all their negative glory. Which is good. And proper. People don't leave tons of reviews (Almost 500) just for the heck of it. Especially not long and in depth negative ones. :D

Now, I don't know that they didn't TRY..but the reviews are still there.

I loved the original books. I adored them. Hell, I ran rpgs based on them. That being said, the last three books have been an incredible downhill spiral. I'm so unhappy. So many fans are. And they are still fans. But if this keeps up, how long can that last?

-Dira-