[identity profile] dwg.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] lkh_lashouts
I'm going to apologise for spamming up the comm, but following the saga of the contest is proving to be my soap opera of choice.

URL: http://blog.laurellkhamilton.org/2008/02/apology.html

Darla's back! I missed Darla! She's in bold! I'm abusing exclamation marks! *headdesk*

Okay, I got asked why didn’t I check the spam filter sooner? I do check the one on my end, on my machine. That one I check every day to make sure that something hasn’t gotten dumped that I don’t want dumped. Which is why I have it set to hold the emails till I dump them.

Yeah, um, great.  But this doesn't actually explain anything.  Not unless you had the emails sent to a whole other computer that you don't check regularly.  Or something.  Whut?

I got an email from one of the two people who suggested Ripley that she had done so. But I didn’t have the email. The spam filter that grabbed it was the one on the service we use. Which is where I found six emails. It grabbed six out over 12,000 that were sent. Which is one reason I hadn’t checked it.

I think what she's trying to say is that she got an email from a person asking why their submission wasn't seen, and this led to the discovery of the entries stuck in the spam filter.  I should not have to sit there wondering how you can get an email but not get an email so how could she read it if it wasn't there? Unless she's getting emails from the ninjas in her office.

Not to mention, after saying that she checks the filter religiously...now she doesn't? Because the spam filter may well be full of spam? Whut?

Darla goes on to say that she has no idea why those six entries wound up in the spam filter, and speculates that there maybe something about the name "Ripley" that means that it'll be OM NOM NOMMED by the filters...but then she does something totally unexpected.  She apologises.

It was my fault for not checking. I do check it. Usually once a month or so and it is rare that anything in there is something useful. Rare enough I check it occasionally, but often enough that I do have it hold them till I delete them personally. I should really have checked it after the contest ended. So totally my fault.

That's great, but what about this whole, "I check my spam filter every day!" as stated above? This is what's making me rub my temples; either you do it, or you don't.  Okay, for all I know it could be like I said; two computers, one is Darla's personal and the other is her work computer.  But it would be nice to have this mentioned somewhere to avoid such confusion.  It'd really, really help if this post were written in oh, say, English.

The two people who suggested Ripley as well as the person who suggested Ridley will receive signed books. Which is what we originally said we would do.

HUZZAH! The original Ridley is gonna get a prize! My faith in humanity hasn't exactly been restored, but now I'm less likely to try and set small animals on fire to make myself feel better.  However, this warm, fuzzy feeling is quickly lost:

And one of the two Ripley’s will be in the acknowledgements.

1) An apostrophe does not mean, "oh look! here comes an S!"
2) I'm sorry, but no.  If all three are getting prizes, they might as well be in the acknowledgements too.  It's two extra names, it won't kill anyone to type them.  Again, I have that urge to write a politely irate email that will probably get eaten by the spam filters!

We still will have the usually drawing and auctions, if I can get arc’s to so with from the publisher. So for those that didn’t win, you still will have a chance to get a book before the release date.

...I have no idea what's being said here.  Anyone, can you please help me translate this? All I can muster is a WHUT?! O_O

Seriously, wtf? This wasn't brain surgery, yet how in the hell could it have gotten so strange and confusing? HOW? All we're really missing is Dr Nick Riviera. (HI DR NICK!)

Date: 2008-02-08 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sharkbytes.livejournal.com
LOL, Darla's in for damage control! Except all she's doing is creating a bit more confusion. It warms the cockles of my black heart whenever Darla posts, it really does. Gems like these don't turn up nearly as much as they used to.

Obviously this little contest turned out to be a lot more work than actually, say, LKH picking a name herself. Plus, doesn't it seem just a *tad* shady that of the six emails that were sent to spam, TWO of them contained the name Ripley? I don't know, it isn't impossible, but still that's a pretty huge coincidence. I have a feeling LKH was planning on simply saying that Ridley inspired her to choose Ripley all by herself.

And that last sentence went in 4 different directions, none of them resembling English.

Date: 2008-02-08 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sharkbytes.livejournal.com
Even funnier, she seems to have neglected that LKH's spin on it was that the whole debacle was due to her dyslexia. Which, fine, is understandable and not something to snark at her about, but now suddenly out of the woodwork come mysterious spam-filtered emails that she hadn't noticed before, and two of those magic emails contained the name Ripley. Which only makes sense if Sigourney Weaver, in an effort to prevent LKH from tainting her legendary performance, hacked into the email server and junked anything with the words "Ripley" and "Alien"
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Date: 2008-02-08 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notadoor.livejournal.com
The text has been edited in a broad sense (ie, chapter 10 would work better as chapter 12, these two side characters would be better combined, this Clever Plot Trick is a bit too clever to be believable), but generally it hasn't gone through the very final copyedit/formatting/layout edit. So it's the same text pretty much, but occasionally you'll run into some weird spacing stuff.

Generally, the appeal is getting your hands on a copy of the book 3-4 months before everyone else.

Date: 2008-02-10 01:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellozombies.livejournal.com
When I worked at Borders, we got in an ARC of Christopher Moore's A Dirty Job. When I saw it hit the shelves, I compared it to the ARC I was allowed to keep and was kind of amazed at how different they were. The general story was the same, but the grammar was poor and some things were vastly shifted around.

In Moore's case, however, somebody actually edited his work. In LKH's...well...we know what goes on there.

Date: 2008-02-08 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilacwire.livejournal.com
The grammar queen inside of me dies a little every time I see a word with an unnecessary apostrophe before the S. Seriously. Did these people not attend, say, MIDDLE SCHOOL?

Date: 2008-02-08 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gweneth-syeira.livejournal.com
sure she isn't Dysexltic instead? Mwuaha

Date: 2008-02-08 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilacwire.livejournal.com
LOL! Great pun.

Date: 2008-02-09 08:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clover-elf-kin.livejournal.com
As an RPer, I run into this all the time. >_> One friend who's dyslexic used to be kind of hard to understand, but now she just makes the occasional slightly odd error. -waves, since she's probably reading this!-

Then there was the friend I lost track of... also says she's dyslexic. Um, okay, but that shouldn't mean she has no grasp of capitalization and little of punctuation!

For that matter, I'm learning disabled--found that out about a year ago. Most of the time, nobody can tell this from my writing, because I actually make an effort to be coherent even though my brain wiring makes that a bit more difficult than it should be!

Date: 2008-02-08 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothgoddessrhia.livejournal.com
Darla should not be allowed to post. Ever. Though, it is funny when she does. I'm conflicted here.

Darla writes confusing gibberish. So does LKH. Both are hilarious in their own way.

Yet, they make my head want to hit my desk repeatedly.

Date: 2008-02-08 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] knowthyself.livejournal.com
You know if this was me? "I'm sorry if you sent it and it got chucked into my spam folder. I dump my spam folder without checking it, 'cause you know, it's there for spam. But THIS entry over here is the one I ended up getting the name from, so this is the person who gets credit. I'm terribly sorry, but such is life. Love, me."

Seriously who checks their spam folder at all, never mind every day? It's there for the crap you don't want to read!

Date: 2008-02-08 07:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sinanju.livejournal.com
I do, because the spam filter makes mistakes. I don't do it often, maybe once a month or so. I skim the message subject lines and senders to make sure it didn't incorrectly round-file an email from someone I actually want to hear from.

I did it this morning, coincidentally--and I found a couple of emails that shouldn't have been tagged as spam. So I whitelisted the senders' email addresses before deleting everything else.

Date: 2008-02-09 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsubaki-ny.livejournal.com
*sheepish* I do as well, mainly because my e-mail service is, er, a little high strung. When I freelanced, I HAD to deal with new e-addresses regularly, so I had important work-related e-mail wind up there often. Sometimes from addresses that weren't new too. (But you can't lower your filter settings or you'll have people trying to enlarge your penis all day.)

So if they're dealing with career- and business-related stuff, they really should check their spam, especially when they SOLICIT a whole bunch of strange e-mailers. Spam on a casual or personal e-mail account I can see dumping unread.

Date: 2008-02-10 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellozombies.livejournal.com
(But you can't lower your filter settings or you'll have people trying to enlarge your penis all day.)

Off-topic, but why do I, as a female, get emails offering to enlarge my penis while some of my friends, male, get tips on how to increase their breast size?

Internet Thought of the Day.

Date: 2008-02-10 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsubaki-ny.livejournal.com
Same here! Well now that is weird as hell. Do you know, it never even occured to me that there WAS breast enlargment spam? THAT would have been at least somewhat relevant to my life. *grumble* Rather than the vaguely insulting ones offering me help in pleasing my disgruntled, sad, and unsatisfied hypothetical woman. *feels kind of bad for men*

Date: 2008-02-11 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] easol.livejournal.com
If I actually took advantage of those stupid penis enlargement offers, I'd be at least half as large as Micah's Monstrous Member. And I'm a woman. :)

Date: 2008-02-08 06:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calenture.livejournal.com
On a completely unrelated note, Zero Punctuation icons make me all warm and fuzzy inside.
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Date: 2008-02-08 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saucyirishlass.livejournal.com
You rock so much for your icon! I can never find anyone else who's seen Charlie the Unicorn..... *must now go watch Charlie the Unicorn again*

Date: 2008-02-09 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsubaki-ny.livejournal.com
Ack, creepy! (In a good way. ^__^)

Date: 2008-02-08 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calenture.livejournal.com
I approve of this course of action.

Date: 2008-02-08 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surcia.livejournal.com
Y'know, it seems like a lot of the things Yahtzee says about the worse games are applicable to Mz. Hamilton. For example, the one from http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2694-Zero-Punctuation-Assassin-s-Creed (Assassin's Creed) about enjoying a nice, if rather bland grilled cheese sandwich, when somebody snatches it from your mouth and replaces it with a spoonful of watery ejaculate between two pieces of cardboard. Pretty accurate description of what happened to the series, in my opinion...

Date: 2008-02-08 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surcia.livejournal.com
Gah, sorry. My HTML has failed me. That was supposed to be the link saying "Assassin's Creed"

Date: 2008-02-08 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vlredreign.livejournal.com
She makes my brain bleed.

I remember her when she was a fledgling mod at the old LKH boards. Still stoopid, I see.

Date: 2008-02-08 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] easol.livejournal.com
You know, the more they try to excuse LKH from any shady biz, the sillier and less innocently inept they look. It really smells like LKH is desperate to hold Teh Contest, but end up being "inspired" so she doesn't cede even the slightest shred of control.

And like sharkbytes said, what are the chances that THOSE TWO emails out of thousands would just happen to jam in the filter? Well, I'm pretty sure it's so small that it's not worth thinking about.

The fact that Darla can't write anything coherent doesn't help either.

Date: 2008-02-08 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daphne-gateau.livejournal.com
If Laurell puts the real story of this contest in her next book the ackwoledgements would have more drama in them than the next 700 pages of novel. I'm glad you are keeping us updated on this. :) I think it's funny in that train-wreck kinda way.

Darla's aplogy sounds like the rambling excuses I won't accept from my nine-year old for why he doesn't clean his room. "I'm sorry I didn't, but I did, but it just didn't work. Not my fault. SPAM FILTER." Just doesn't have the same mature, humble impact as a simple: "I am so sorry I messed up this contest. It's my fault and I promise to make it up to everyone. I'm going to fix it." The apology should come from Laurell anyway.

I guess I'm being a nitpicky bitch to LKH but a woman who can't simply admit she messed up, then sends in her assistant to take the blame and apologize gets no respect from me.

Date: 2008-02-08 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymuttly1.livejournal.com
Nuts-they are all nuts. Who in their right mind drags out their mistakes?Once simple apology, thanks to everyone who participated and give away three signed books and move on. I mean really, are they going to go into bankruptcy because they give away three copies of the book?

Date: 2008-02-08 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bad-habit.livejournal.com
Well, I would HOPE so. But I guess it wouldn't actually bankrupt them. However, now this whole book has created a lot of publicity (albeit be it amongst fans and lashers. I cannot imagine anyone else reading her blog. I mean... why would you?!) and people are starting to realise that it will be published. Soon. YES! You cannot change the inevitable! And you know. Keep in the minds of people that there'll be a book soon. Something.

I wonder if the drama continues. Well, I hope the drama continues because it amuses me. But that's a different matter altogether.

And I think they are the sort of people who give nuts a bad name.

Date: 2008-02-08 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saucyirishlass.livejournal.com
that it'll be OM NOM NOMMED by the filters

I read that three times before I understood what you were saying, and then I couldn't stop giggling. ^_^

Date: 2008-02-09 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecreamempress.livejournal.com
Why are they going to all this trouble over this nonsense? Give three people the books and be done with it. What would it cost LKH? 35 dollars, tops?
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Date: 2008-02-11 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icecreamempress.livejournal.com
I actually just assumed that Darla had written it wrong, and the problem was with sharing one prize among three people--not about typing two extra names in the Acknowledgments.

Why do I constantly underestimate the degree of stupidity in Team WhoreNita?
From: [identity profile] rozasharn.livejournal.com
As near as I can tell, there were two spam filters: one run by their ISP, with a spam folder residing on the ISP's servers; the other running on their own machine, filtering the mail after it's been passed by the ISP's filter.

Darla checks the spam-folder on her machine every day, and checks the spam-folder on the ISP's server once a month. Of the 12,000+ emails sent to them (for the contest?) the ISP only intercepted six. This very low intercept rate is why she doesn't check the ISP's folder more often.
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From: [personal profile] eseme
Yes. Exactly. I understood this to be what Darla meant.

However, I have a computer science degree and could translate her garbled tech-speak. I imagine that for many, it is just garbled. I bet the contest "winners" are still confused and this didn't help any.

Anyone want to take bets on when Jon, the "tech guy," will make a post trying to further explain the spam filter issue?
From: [identity profile] roguetailkinker.livejournal.com
I don't have a comp science degree, and I got it. I'm a computer geek, but a relatively untrained one.

But yes, one spam filter on your own computer, one on your ISP's server.

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