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lkh_lashouts@kohning We discuss that they had sex off stage a lot more than on stage. I can't possible show on stage every time Anita & lover have sex
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But, dammit, she will try!
I really wish that, instead of just realizing she "can't possibly" show every time Anita has sex, she'd go the opposite route and put a cap on the amount of sex shown in each book. Twice per book, maybe, just to ease herself in. Then, put a limit on how many people gain something from sex; once per book is probably something she could handle, but I'd like it to be once every third book. Really, let's face it, no book should have more than one scene in which someone gains phenomenal cosmic power (iiiitty bitty living space) from having sex. Having that happen once per book in a long series is just ridiculous. I don't want to hear about anymore of Anita's boy toys gaining power from making her scream. It's not only unseemly, it's also boring. Characters that can always power up from having sex with Anita are not interesting.
"I can't open this pickle jar!"
"Just have sex with Anita."
[several minutes later] "Pickle acquired! NOM NOM NOM!"
(No pun intended, but that was awesome)
A complete lack of struggle is not interesting. I don't understand why anyone would want to read books in which the characters just live their lives without doing anything new or different. The sex in the ABVH series has become as routine and boring as reading about a character washing the dishes.
I was also thinking about how, with all the power that Anita just- ah- hands out, willy nilly (Where is Willy, anyway! Did he pack up his fuzzy dice and leave town quietly?), don't you think this sort of thing would get out? Don't you think that there are even just humans out there who have their fingers in supernatural pies who have probably heard about this magical, rotating door of power? Edward can't be the only sociopath out there who plays well when the monsters when it serves him well.
I'd like to see some Microsoft-sized President/CEO/whatever businessman take notice of all the powers Anita is handing out and decide that he wants that for himself. He could send in a few lowly vampires/werewolves/Frankensteins/Mummies/whatever to test the waters. Then, when he's sure what he hears is legitimate, he could get guys like Edward to blow Anita's stronghold to bits while she and JC or she and Micah are out on a date. Then, when all her whiny friends are blowed up by bombs with silver and holy water shrapnel, he should kidnap Anita and keep her tied up so that he can power up every day at Rape O'Clock!
But, no. Nothing this interesting/unpleasant would ever happen in the Anitaverse. Boo.
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Date: 2010-01-06 01:51 pm (UTC)I would like to see just one man cut her off in mid-whine and say,"Sorry, there's not enough power in the universe to make me boldly go where everyman has been before."
Then he would have to kill her because I can't see Anita accepting rejection gracefully or any other way that didn't involve a loaded gun.
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Date: 2010-01-06 04:00 pm (UTC)a+
but yes, on this entire rant. i just. ugh.
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Date: 2010-01-06 04:02 pm (UTC)I have a feeling Hamilton herself is starting to become a little dispassionate about her Mary Sue fantasies. However she hasn't yet realized that neither she nor Anita have a mandatory quota for sexual content. There doesn't have to be any sex! We know she's having it, we don't have to be told every single time. Of course, Hamilton's painted herself into a corner, and her troos would have hissy fits with much wailing and gnashing of teeth if she was too leave it out. Why? I will never understand.
Still, I would love to see a new book in which she doesn't mention sex at all, as long as there was some plot, a sense of danger and an element of surprise. Hell, if I thought any of the regular cast was in danger, I wouldn't even mind a hint of sex. It might even make it--dare I say--kinda sexy.
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Date: 2010-01-06 04:14 pm (UTC)So unbelievably boring.
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Date: 2010-01-06 04:17 pm (UTC)ahahahahahaha
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Date: 2010-01-06 04:47 pm (UTC)That whole conversation about where to have it was only slightly less ridiculous than the entire 'OMG NO SEX ANYWHERE BUT THE BED FOR MONTHS YOU POOR POOR BABY HOW DO YOU NOT HAVE PTSD FROM THAT" one.
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Date: 2010-01-09 10:45 am (UTC)< / Vader >
Thomas Wolfe, anybody?
Date: 2010-01-07 08:03 pm (UTC)sure sounds like lkh is trying to start actually writing nothing but convos a la Thomas Wolfe.
Problem is, the convos are boring. SO are the people.
One other thing: JUST finished KITTY'S HOUSE OF HORRORS. There's a WONDERFUL call into her talk show by a . . . wait for it . . . VAMPIRE EXECUTIONER! This is going to be Carrie Vaughn's breakout novel. She actually kills off important characters! While I HATE being in the hospital, I got to read the WHOLE BOOK without interruptions, and it's wonderful.
'Nother book that I am reading now is something called ZOMBIE CSU. Wonder if lkh has seen it? Bet NOT!
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Date: 2010-01-08 02:42 am (UTC)Good. They can be the recipients of her next Dear Negative Reader missive. ;)
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Date: 2010-01-06 04:20 pm (UTC)I am a total bitch to my characters but that just makes me feel kind of uncomfortable and not in an fascinatingly morbid/horrified way. I don't know. It would put Anita in danger and that would be interesting but it just doesn't sit well with me at all. I think the threat of it would be more interesting than it actually happening.
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Date: 2010-01-06 05:20 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-01-07 01:33 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-01-07 02:02 pm (UTC)The horror of it could change her as a character for the better and, once she got rescued/got free, she'd be forced to change her whole outlook on life.
But, as others have said, Hamilton is remarkably adept at keeping her books boring and uneventful, so nothing this game-changing would ever take place.
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Date: 2010-01-06 04:32 pm (UTC)Also, Edward doesn't really seem like a sociopath to me anymore. Perhaps it was him crapping out (I stopped reading after Incubus Dreams, so my only knowledge of his further actions are from the bookflogs here), or perhaps it's because I know an actual sociopath and I'm studying psychology, but... meh.
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Date: 2010-01-06 08:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-01-07 01:36 pm (UTC)It's basically the equivalent to putting pearls on Nathaniel.
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Date: 2010-01-07 07:43 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-01-06 05:10 pm (UTC)a. bunch of people randomly attack
b. anita fights off the attackers with the power of her vagoo
c. sex scene
d. attackers refuse to say who sent them
e. random argument about something
f. sex scene!
g. bad guy shows up, admits his whole plan, anita kills him
h. time for a bath/sex scene!
She has this uncanny ability to narrowly avoid anything actually happening.
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Date: 2010-01-06 06:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-01-06 06:28 pm (UTC)I also forgot the bit where one of the bad guy minions defects to Anita's side because she's just naturally way more awesome and y'know, vagina. And stuff.
My friend and I were doing this earlier with "what if LKH wrote an episode of Law and Order". Hilarity.
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Date: 2010-01-06 05:24 pm (UTC)If there was less men around, and more sexual tension between the obvious characters maybe more people would enjoy her sex scenes...
naw.
Also... there has to be some Paranormal suspense (*coughromancecough*) sex scenes out there that are actually sexy and pant-worthy. Any suggestions?
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Date: 2010-01-07 06:16 am (UTC)That series does have some of it's own problems with repetitive dialogue, but the plot actually moves (and is finished at 12 books long). And the sex scenes just get better and better.
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Date: 2010-01-08 03:33 am (UTC)(If you like femslash, I do have a couple self-published coming out soon, and the feedback on the sexy scenes has been good so far. /plug)
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Date: 2010-01-06 06:01 pm (UTC)I think the big killer for me on the books is that we already know she won't kill anyone off or let anything bad happen to them. Unless they're blonde.
And the sex scenes are not sexy. I mean, sometimes there is a little discussion about where to have the sex, but even that can be sexy.
I like the idea of someone kidnapping her and forcing her to be his (or her) power-up, in the sense that it would make good reading. Even if she tried it, though, LKH would probably magically have her figure out how to control it.
Every time I sort through my books, more of LKH's make their way into the discard/used book store pile.
DV
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Date: 2010-01-07 01:29 pm (UTC)Every time I hear that complaint, I think about her Underworld rant blog (http://blog.laurellkhamilton.org/index.php/site/comments/underworld/) in which she ironically says, "Due to many of the preceding, I at no time felt like any of the main characters were in jeopardy." as one of the problems she had with the movie!
Yes, Laurell! That IS a problem with a book or movie! That's why, when you say you want to have Anita have sex instead of kill off anyone in the book, we roll our eyes and clench our fists!
I sold my ABVH books to a used bookstore around the time ID came out; I had up to NiC and I got $8 for the whole bunch. When I go into a used bookstore, now, I almost always see dozens of copies of her books.
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Date: 2010-01-08 09:46 pm (UTC)Anita> Sex me up NOOOOOWWWW!
Random Red Shirt> One moment I need to find the saftey harness, fasten the back up lines...and hey Ralph! Hold the rome will ya! I'm going in!
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Date: 2010-01-07 04:47 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2010-01-12 05:38 am (UTC)I need brain bleach.
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Date: 2010-01-18 01:12 am (UTC)I think it was Skin Trade where it's mentioned in passing that they made a lame arrangement where Joseph is still The Lion King (lulz) and he and Anita are fucking. The wife is okay with this apparently because she's still "the wife" while Anita's just "the mistress".
Naturally, the wife is made out to be practically the other woman and totally in the wrong because someone else coerced her husband into martial infidelity.
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Date: 2010-01-06 08:46 pm (UTC)"Just have sex with Anita."
[several minutes later] "Pickle acquired! NOM NOM NOM!"
It's a good thing I'm home sick instead of in the office because I cackled at that.
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Date: 2010-01-07 01:30 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-01-08 12:06 am (UTC)Also, the pickle thing was great.
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Date: 2010-01-08 12:08 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-01-07 09:29 am (UTC)And I'm just WAITING for her to remember that thing called "watersports" and combine the two. >_>
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Date: 2010-01-07 04:50 pm (UTC)The fallout (no pun intended) would be spectacular!
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Date: 2010-01-07 05:58 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-01-09 02:35 am (UTC)Yay Venture Bros.!