Small assemblage of questions
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And once again, my brain has been ticking, and I wondered if anyone had any answers (or just ideas, theories, headcanons, etc.) on any of the following:
- I haven't read the book in which Byron appears, but an AB Wiki tells me that he "was turned at 15, but due to bulking up muscle can pass for 18." Is it ever stated in the books whether or not this bulking-up was done before or after death? I swear I got the impression somewhere that he did so AFTER being turned, which has all sorts of interesting implications. Like, if vampires can build muscle, can they lose it? Can they gain or lose fat, maybe by drinking from someone with high blood sugar or cholesterol too often or something like that? If they die bulked-up, do they have to work to maintain that muscle after death, or does anything you died with stay the same and you can only add from there, not lose?
- Why is the rat king/rodere leader called the Rom? What does that mean and how would it relate to rats? The only 'Rom' I know of is the Roma people, and when I searched the term on Wiki, I didn't get any results that seem rat-related.
- How much blood do vampires need to drink? In some parts of the book there's an implication that they don't need much at all, while other parts imply they can potentially kill someone by feeding on them. My guess is that while they may only need a bit, some go way overboard, either because they're assholes or just can't control themselves, but is it ever stating explicitly just what the case is?
- Necromancers can control all types of undead, not just zombies. There's been a lot of focus on Anita controlling vampires, but what about ghosts and ghouls? Ghouls are a type of undead, do ghosts count as such too? And has there been anything on Anita having influence over either since her necromancer powers awakened?
- I haven't read the book in which Byron appears, but an AB Wiki tells me that he "was turned at 15, but due to bulking up muscle can pass for 18." Is it ever stated in the books whether or not this bulking-up was done before or after death? I swear I got the impression somewhere that he did so AFTER being turned, which has all sorts of interesting implications. Like, if vampires can build muscle, can they lose it? Can they gain or lose fat, maybe by drinking from someone with high blood sugar or cholesterol too often or something like that? If they die bulked-up, do they have to work to maintain that muscle after death, or does anything you died with stay the same and you can only add from there, not lose?
- Why is the rat king/rodere leader called the Rom? What does that mean and how would it relate to rats? The only 'Rom' I know of is the Roma people, and when I searched the term on Wiki, I didn't get any results that seem rat-related.
- How much blood do vampires need to drink? In some parts of the book there's an implication that they don't need much at all, while other parts imply they can potentially kill someone by feeding on them. My guess is that while they may only need a bit, some go way overboard, either because they're assholes or just can't control themselves, but is it ever stating explicitly just what the case is?
- Necromancers can control all types of undead, not just zombies. There's been a lot of focus on Anita controlling vampires, but what about ghosts and ghouls? Ghouls are a type of undead, do ghosts count as such too? And has there been anything on Anita having influence over either since her necromancer powers awakened?
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Date: 2012-12-22 05:52 pm (UTC)I would have thought that the bulking up/losing weight thing might work the same way that JC can grow his hair? It'd just take more energy, so Byron may eat more people to maintain it? Other than that it's all very *handwavey* because LKH says so, that's why.
No idea on the rat thing.
Re: blood - you're pretty spot on there. It's stated in the earlier books that a vampire can't actually drink all the blood contained in one human body, but I guess they can bleed someone out to dangerous levels, either through repeated feedings (and this is why it takes three bites to make a vampire) or being an asshole by chewing on someone's arteries and leaving them to leak everywhere. It gets hinky later when it comes to sex, in that JC suddenly has to feed every time he wants to have an erection and otherwise cannot get it up, even if he's just ejaculated. Which makes no sense unless he's ejaculating blood, which...ew. This is a retcon that baffles the hell out of me.
Re: ghosts, the only time they really played a major part was with Serephina (I MISS HER. SHE IS MY FAVOURITE) in Bloody Bones. After that, they haven't showed up. There's this whole thing about ignoring spirits in the graveyard, because giving them attention means they have power over you to pull on your clothes but it's never been something that's explored. Ditto on trying to control ghouls, that only showed up in GP iirc and they haven't returned since. Anita's necromancy has become something she busts out when she wants to appear spooky with protracted descriptions of fists opening and cool wind, but the most she's used it for is sensing if a vampire's nearby. So add this to the list of potential wasted in the series. (I'm sad there aren't like pissed off ghosts taking revenge because they're being ignored and it's her duty as a necromancer to listen sorta like in Clive Barker's Book of Blood/Jerusalem Street. How terrifying would that be?!)
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Date: 2012-12-22 05:59 pm (UTC)...ejaculating blood oh god D8
Do you remember if it was ever stated what bloodline Seraphina was? I remembered her as a fear vamp like Nikolaos for some reason, but I checked one of my usual AB Wikis and it doesn't specify, but all the vampires under her seem to have been rotters, so I guess she probably was too? By the way, I saw you mention your Kissaphina headcanon somewhere, and I TOTALLY SHARE IT NOW, JUST SO YOU KNOW.
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Date: 2012-12-22 06:15 pm (UTC)(They don't ejaculate blood. Which is why the whole thing is completely baffling.)
I think Serephina came up before the whole bloodline thing happened? And even then it's hard to keep them straight because I think the fear ones started out being related to the rotting ones, but then later they're somehow related to Belle Morte? There was something to do with the chick that turned Damian. I'm still WTFing over how the Dragon is all about ANGER AND RAGE, okay? But wasn't he also supposed to be the actual Dracula? (but then Dracula became a bad luck name as seen by the most recent Master of London that fought to use it and promptly turned out to be batshit and had to be killed. Which is how Byron and Requiem wind up in St Louis.)
AW YAY. I'm still holding out for the off-chance that wereravens will totally happen, though it looks like Requiem won't have them as an animal to call. I still maintain that Requiem is the mysterious person who leaves booze and a rose on Poe's grave every year.
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Date: 2012-12-22 06:46 pm (UTC)The fear ones are 'related' to Belle Morte in that the Moroven/Nemhain, their fountainhead, was of Belle Morte's bloodline, but then she developed her own powers and her own bloodline that made the fear vamps. With Damian, he indicates in Blue Moon that he is of Belle Morte's bloodline, yet in Incubus Dreams, we learn that he is from the Moroven's line. Additionally, in CS, Belle Morte herself claims Damian is of her line.
The Dragon is a woman, so I don't think she has much to do with Dracula? IDK, I didn't read the one where Byron and Requiem appeared.
Oh, and uh, one more thing...it is in Hit List that Anita for real says she can't cross her arms over her chest because of her boobs, right? XD
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Date: 2012-12-22 07:12 pm (UTC)The Dragon being Dracula could also be leftover headcanon from my RPG days. But JC definitely did let slip he apparently hung out with Dracula back in the day in Bloody Bones.
oh man, the boob thing. I'm certain it's a recurring theme that's showed up much earlier than Hit List. I want to say Laughing Corpse type early because I'm sure there was one time when Anita was jealous of Ronnie of being able to cross her arms across her boobs, but can't be bothered checking my books right now (I'm trying to go to bed, everyone stop emailing me) so I'll get back to you later on that.
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Date: 2012-12-22 11:28 pm (UTC)(I say this because I'm five three with [proportionately] short arms and DDD/E bra size, and I can't do that either. I can cross my arms above or below, but OVER means serious--and uncomfy--squashing.)
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Date: 2012-12-23 07:34 am (UTC)HOW DOES THAT WORK. Unless you're getting all your clothes specially tailored, in which case you probably have more money than sense but an amazing wardrobe that is not full of polo shirts. Either way, this makes Anita smaller than the average woman and should easily be able to find outfits off the rack, boobs and all.
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Date: 2012-12-23 08:38 am (UTC)*BTW, I'm not saying a woman who wears a 12 1/2 is fat. She's not. From my perspective she's a normal sized woman.
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Date: 2012-12-23 11:12 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-12-24 05:44 am (UTC)Yeah, this t-shirt was just a tight scoop necked t-shirt. No support, but apparently enough for the girls. Boobs don't work like that, LKH. They really don't.
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Date: 2012-12-23 04:47 am (UTC)I'm an AA cup and my elbows are level with the bottom of my ribs. Thus when I'm crossing my arms across my front, they go under my bosom normally. Also the last time I checked, the ribs were considered part of the chest. It's really clumsy wording on LKH's part.
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Date: 2012-12-22 09:57 pm (UTC)It was gross.
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Date: 2012-12-23 04:41 am (UTC)This is why I trawl 3 for $10 bargain bin books. Sometimes I come across something so delightfully wackadoo, it's worth its weight in lulz.
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Date: 2012-12-23 10:25 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-12-23 10:25 pm (UTC)By the way, do you have any spare brain bleach?
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Date: 2012-12-24 05:49 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-12-22 07:46 pm (UTC)I should really learn to do that. I just have this overwhelming need to make it all make SENSE AND ORDER and it's FUTILE because THERE IS NONE ANYMORE.
Of course Rome and Romulus are associated with wolves, not rats, but it's a name with a good legendary pedigree and LKH isn't hugely concerned with accuracy these days.
Ugh, sadly true. I really hope that it's something else that makes more rat-related sense, but it might not be.
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Date: 2013-01-01 02:09 am (UTC)It makes a LOT more sense than "true" Anita verse! :)