[identity profile] ravenhaley.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] lkh_lashouts
I took Flo's adivce and decided to make a thread about Peter.

So Peter is suppose to come to St. Louis with Edward and Olaf. 

Here are the Spoilers for the Harlequin:

Peter gets clawed pretty good by a weretiger trying to help Anita.

He needs rough sex because he has issues with women because of his rape by Amanda in OB- and it was too rough for his first two girlfriends.

And, the kicker of it all - but no big surprise- he has a crush on Anita and she's his hero because she saved his family.

This is just gross. Peter having a crush on Anita is just wrong, but of course he has to crush on her ... there is no one else for him to crush on who isn't the "DIETY". 

In the timeline, Peter is suppose to be 14/15 years old. Yet, it would seem LKH will forget about his age because she forgets everything else (i.e. Asher smokes, Damian's age and oh how about a PLOT!)

But this isn't the first time LKH has mention sex and someone under the age of 18. If I remember, DM had the Siren making deals with Anita to sleep with her kids for them to come into their powers. I only thing one of them is over the age limit. So this doesn't surprise me. It is very much the direction of where LKH has gone now. The only thing on her mind is sex, sex, and more sex. For it is the only thing she writes about and there isn't anything to stop her including age limit.

As for Peter, I am not surprise this is where they are taking him. Look at Nate for crying out loud. This was a creature Anita was trying to help since BO and BM. Yet, somewhere from OB and NIC he no longer became this scared helpless barely over the age of 18 who was abused and kicked to the sideline. Oh no, he became a "stud muff" Shrug   Which I never got that. Nate is not a strong character. I still see the character as a broken boy who doesn't know how to take care of himself without selling himself one way or another. That alone is a reason I never liked the character.

There is just some things you can cross the line but others you can't. Furry sex and underage sex is just things no one should touch. Someone apparently doesn't know that. We have seen Furry sex  .... it is a matter of time for the other and it looks like it could be this next book. Of course, to justify the means LKH will just forget Peter's real ago and call him 18. I mean his "fake" ID says so. *eyeroll*

I think LKH won't write about therapy maybe because she is afraid she will learn that sex can't and will not solve your problems. Instead of drinking like most "normal" people, LKH has made Anita and the rest of the characters think sex is the answer to the questions. Anita still hasn't gotten over her mother's death or her father re-marrying. How about her ex who left her because she was mixed. She still harbors these issues and is making her life evening more of a mess the more she buries the problems underneath the next person she sleeps with.

Or maybe this is just life imitating art?Shrug 

Thoughts?

Date: 2007-05-27 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slayra.livejournal.com
Sorry, I may be misreading but where does it say that Anita will go for Pete or *shudders* have sex with him? It only says that Peter will have a crush on Anita (ugh, who would????!!!!) but not that she will return the feelings (that would be gross). Many teenagers have crushes on teachers or adults that they perceive as role-models (Anita Blake a role-model? Yuck.).

Now the thing about the rough sex and the two girlfriends is just weird. I don't know much on the subject of rape (thank God) but aren't victims of rape usually afraid of sexual contact and sex in general? I mean, how come Peter likes it rough because he was raped? I'm asking because I honestly have a doubt, not mocking anything or anyone (this is not a laughing matter).

Also... LKH we so do NOT want to learn about a 14-year-old having sex 'kthankx! Gross!

Date: 2007-05-27 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadwing.livejournal.com
I think the fact it's being hinted at is what is freaking us out. Lets do the check list! Peter vs. The Harem

1) Emotionaly Scarred- CHECK
2) Sexually Abused- CHECK
3) Must have 'Rough Sex'- CHECK
4) Sexually/Physically attracted to Anita- CHECK

Right now the only difference between Peter and members of the Harem is that he's massively underaged. Let hope that she doesn't cross that line.

Date: 2007-05-27 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slayra.livejournal.com
Well, if you put it that way... I guess it is being hinted, but I doubt any author would be foolish enough to write a relatioship (I just can't call it sex, or I'll go nuts) between a 15-year-old and an adult woman and expect that people will like it, or God help us, think it sexy and right.

There are authors who portray minor/adult relationships but they give the sense that it is wrong and a relationship between very fucked up individuals. But if LKH is mad enough to go through with this, she will still portray Anita as a conquering, supa powerful hero and Peter as a fragile teen who has been through a horrible experience. How can this be considered right? How can fans shrug it off and say it's all part of the book and story and world? Normal people don't consider these kinds of things normal, sane or good no matter how they are presented! Ugh. I hope we are wrong and LKH doesn't write such a thing. And if a rabid fanboy/girl calls us 'prudes' for thinking it wrong I'll know these people are somewhat crazy.

Date: 2007-05-27 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadwing.livejournal.com
Agreed, the fact that she's even *hinting* at it is going over the line, traditionally Anita has never said no to something that made her uncomfortable she does it, with angst, but she DOES it. If it does happen here is the sequence.

Peter angsts and asks for sex, Anita as first refuses, Peter has a break down, Anita is chided by somebody (JC or god help us Edward) that it is her DUTY to help Peter and give him what he needs to be whole. Sex happens.

I hope that it doesn't happen if it does I think it could be the kiss of death for her career.

Date: 2007-05-27 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slayra.livejournal.com
It's... monstrous. I mean, just because LKH is under the impression that she is God's gift to Mankind (and feminists), she can't be allowed to do this. She just can't. And I even shudder to think what those besotted fans are saying in the forum. I hope it's not 'You go Anita!' or 'Yay, Anita is too cool'. Yuck!

With her luck? I don't know. I think fanboys/girls will cheer, clap and pat her on the back and say 'good job, Laurell!'. Someone will always be buying her stuff, unfortunately. I always wondered why the heck the editorial reviews for the last three or four books weren't negative. I mean to call her books 'sexy' is a bit of a stretch, right?

Date: 2007-05-28 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saucyirishlass.livejournal.com
Well, anyone who mutters any dissent and disgust at the thought gets deleted, remember? Someone on the Amazon board had a message deleted for mentioning the word "pedophilia."

But I've made a vow to myself never to go on the message board without a thread already in mind. I'm happier getting secondhand information where I can do something about it. Being on the boards would just tempt me to make trouble.

Date: 2007-05-28 07:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stefflebug.livejournal.com
Well, anyone who mutters any dissent and disgust at the thought gets deleted, remember? Someone on the Amazon board had a message deleted for mentioning the word "pedophilia."

This doesn't surprise me. The troos and MPE won't hear a thing against Laurellita at all, even if it is becoming more and more justified. They will always have something to say to excuse their 'diety' in her ivory tower, and they'll probably stay that way.

I guess we can only hope that as the books get worse and the things that happen in them get closer to the edge of what normal people find tolerable that more of them will be come 'negative readers'.

If it were me, I'd be making trouble on the boards. But I can't stand her site long enough to get there. It makes my eyes bleed.

Date: 2007-05-29 08:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyalesyin.livejournal.com
I'm tempted to troll just to expell some vitriol, but those gigs work best when you have someone working with you.

Date: 2007-05-28 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saucyirishlass.livejournal.com
He's also human, which makes him different from everyone else in the harem. But, he gets scratched up by a weretiger, so that may be a moot point.

Date: 2007-05-28 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stefflebug.livejournal.com
Isn't it true in the Anitaverse that a were's first time has to be with either another were or someone that can be trusted to a)take the 'damage' and b )control the were enough that they don't do too much damage?

Does that mean that if Peter becomes a weretiger, Anita with her o-so-spechial control over weres is going to step in and sacrifice herself to see him through his first time, despite the fact that he is so young and she knows that she shouldn't be doing it (cue Anita Angst)

Date: 2007-05-28 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymuttly1.livejournal.com
For what it is worth I'm betting on one of two things happening

1. Anita holds off for a book or two until Peter is legal

or

2. LKH has no idea of Peter's age and makes him 18.

He'll wind up as a were-tiger. I have no doubt about that.

Date: 2007-05-28 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladymuttly1.livejournal.com
hit the return too soon

He'll wind up as a were-tiger which means he'll fit her last check mark:

Not human

Date: 2007-05-28 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadwing.livejournal.com
*nods* However since the last few books have happened in a few weeks it'll be hard to age him up unless they pull some BS out that once he becomes a weretiger he's techically 'legal' since animals mature faster than humans.
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Date: 2007-05-28 11:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slayra.livejournal.com
Yeah, I know. I wasn't exactly saying that 'everyone' who was raped was afraid of intimate contact. But it seems like the usual reaction, according to doctors and stuff. I guess people react in many ways, though. *shivers* It's still wrong to portray Peter as he will possibly be portrayed in the upcoming book: a victim that likes it rough and needs Anita's 'sexual healing'. That's gross.

I don't get the author, how can anyone (not deranged) think that kind of plotline remotely appealing? Sometimes I wish LKH was secretly lurking in this comm reading all our posts and comments. It might do her good. Then again, she would probably not learn a thing (as she considers herself a literary genius) and would report us to the LJ crew. *sigh*

Date: 2007-05-29 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stickfigurepeep.livejournal.com
I was raped when I was really young, and it manifested later in rape fantasies. But, you know, I recognize that that's the reason behind them, and don't let my fantasy life cross over into my actual sex life. I think where LKH goes wrong is encouraging her characters to "vent" those sort of unhealthy feelings, and acting like that's the best way to fix them, rather than being the worst possible thing someone could do about it.

What I wonder is, what does she mean by rough sex? Is he abbusive to the girls? Does he want them to abuse him? Or is it just like the rest of LKH's "rough sex," where the worst that happens is that someone gets a hickey and some scratch marks?

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