Spoilers Harlequin: Peter - The Pimp in training

[ravenhaley.livejournal.com]

I took Flo's adivce and decided to make a thread about Peter.

So Peter is suppose to come to St. Louis with Edward and Olaf. 

Here are the Spoilers for the Harlequin:

Peter gets clawed pretty good by a weretiger trying to help Anita.

He needs rough sex because he has issues with women because of his rape by Amanda in OB- and it was too rough for his first two girlfriends.

And, the kicker of it all - but no big surprise- he has a crush on Anita and she's his hero because she saved his family.

This is just gross. Peter having a crush on Anita is just wrong, but of course he has to crush on her ... there is no one else for him to crush on who isn't the "DIETY". 

In the timeline, Peter is suppose to be 14/15 years old. Yet, it would seem LKH will forget about his age because she forgets everything else (i.e. Asher smokes, Damian's age and oh how about a PLOT!)

But this isn't the first time LKH has mention sex and someone under the age of 18. If I remember, DM had the Siren making deals with Anita to sleep with her kids for them to come into their powers. I only thing one of them is over the age limit. So this doesn't surprise me. It is very much the direction of where LKH has gone now. The only thing on her mind is sex, sex, and more sex. For it is the only thing she writes about and there isn't anything to stop her including age limit.

As for Peter, I am not surprise this is where they are taking him. Look at Nate for crying out loud. This was a creature Anita was trying to help since BO and BM. Yet, somewhere from OB and NIC he no longer became this scared helpless barely over the age of 18 who was abused and kicked to the sideline. Oh no, he became a "stud muff"    Which I never got that. Nate is not a strong character. I still see the character as a broken boy who doesn't know how to take care of himself without selling himself one way or another. That alone is a reason I never liked the character.

There is just some things you can cross the line but others you can't. Furry sex and underage sex is just things no one should touch. Someone apparently doesn't know that. We have seen Furry sex  .... it is a matter of time for the other and it looks like it could be this next book. Of course, to justify the means LKH will just forget Peter's real ago and call him 18. I mean his "fake" ID says so. *eyeroll*

I think LKH won't write about therapy maybe because she is afraid she will learn that sex can't and will not solve your problems. Instead of drinking like most "normal" people, LKH has made Anita and the rest of the characters think sex is the answer to the questions. Anita still hasn't gotten over her mother's death or her father re-marrying. How about her ex who left her because she was mixed. She still harbors these issues and is making her life evening more of a mess the more she buries the problems underneath the next person she sleeps with.

Or maybe this is just life imitating art? 

Thoughts?

Comments

[dan-lian.livejournal.com]

Y'know...

When book titles shorten to "BO" and "BM", it's not a good sign.

[no-ron.livejournal.com]

i wonder if there's going to be a "BJ", too..
>_>

[chucklingcorpse.livejournal.com]

Oh, great. Peter too? LKH already ruined the Rat King.

And, the kicker of it all - but no big surprise- he has a crush on Anita and she's his hero because she saved his family.

And why is it that every male character in the series automatically has to fall in luv with Anita?

[ravenhaley.livejournal.com]

She is the all and powerful "Diety".

No one can put it out like Anita.

[lastshotringing.livejournal.com]

... Nathaniel's loss of character still upsets me.

[sharkbytes.livejournal.com]

couldn't have said it better, right there. it's pretty depressing :(

[fishsanwitt]

Not Peter!

[track-04.livejournal.com]

It's just too bad that Edward is going to become one of Anita's out of character ass kissing yes men like the rest of the characters and won't kill her for it. Maybe he can at least put the rest of us out of our misery. Augh. :/

[stefflebug.livejournal.com]

It's Pod-ward. There is no other explaination for why he is acting like he appears to be acting. Hell, he's probably encouraging Peter to sleep with Anita, thinking it'll heal him.

I'm going to be clinging to the fact that it could all be a plan for Edward to get closer to Anita so that he can take down the monster he always promised to kill. Her and all her darlings. That and Peter is his apprentice and being used as bait.

I'm clinging to that dammit.

[vmisery.livejournal.com]

I have no words.

[requiella]

and it was too rough for his first two girlfriends.

he's supposed to be 14/15 and his taste for rough sex turned off *two girlfriends*?
How old was he when he dated them and did it rough? 12? 13? Shocking that rough sex would be to much for a girl in her early teens, that is if they were in their teens. (uggg)
The mind recoils...

[ravenclaw-devi.livejournal.com]

I know. *shudders* Unclean, unclean!

[x-trickster-x.livejournal.com]

So now she's screwing underage people too? Ewwww, and I thought I couldn't hate her any more. That's just... sick. Nevermind the whole "rough sex" at 14/15 thing... >

[baeraad.livejournal.com]

Dear lord. Cue Anita angsting for ages about how she isn't at all sure she wants to sleep with him, everyone banding together and telling her it's her duty because she has to heal his emotional scars and he needs her and besides, she can't let those silly Catholic hangups (because when someone doesn't think it's a good idea to sleep with someone, that's always caused by Catholic hangups), dramatic sex scene, lots of sappy emotional stuff, Peter gets added to the list of Anita's (gah, gah, gah!) sweeties.

Agree with you about Nathaniel, that whole thing always felt disturbing to me. It's like, okay, he doesn't think he needs to find a girlfriend because he figures that Anita is already his girlfriend? So snap him out of that delusion, Anita! Nip that creepy teenage fanboy crush of his in the bud! You're not under any obligation to start actually dating him because he thinks that's what you're already doing!

Anita, as usual, didn't heed my advice on the subject. =]

Furry sex and underage sex is just things no one should touch.

Er. What's underage sex is a matter of perspective, though. Where I live, 15 is the age of consent.

She still harbors these issues and is making her life evening more of a mess the more she buries the problems underneath the next person she sleeps with.

Sounds about right to me. Having someone hold you makes the world less scary. Anita seems to have completely broken and become entirely unable to deal with real life. "WAAAAHH! There's so many horrible things in the world! Rape, death, abuse, depressing, people who say mean things! Hold me! HOOOOOOLD MEEEEE!!!"

I didn't like Anita even in the old days, but what she's turned into is just surreal.

[ditaykan.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but in most places it's still illegal for, say, somebody of 25 (or heck, 27) to be dancing the horizontal mambo with somebody who is just barely the legal age of consent. I'm pretty sure that I read about a court case a while ago dealing with something like that, although I think the guy was about 33.

[roguetailkinker.livejournal.com]

Oh gross. Just ew ew ew. He's what, fifteen?

And Olaf?! Did she include him strictly as something to squick people even worse than the Peter thing?

Guess this is another one I'll read sitting on the floor of Barnes & Noble. :P

[saucyirishlass.livejournal.com]

Oh, I don't think anything will squick me worse than the Peter thing. It's just wrong, on too many levels.

[stefflebug.livejournal.com]

Words fail me at this, but only because there are so many of them trying to come out so loudly that they're getting stuck.

Is it me or is LKH plumbing new depths of wtf-ery?

Peter was raped. Whether it was a hand-job or anything else, he was raped. So he automatically goes out and gets himself a girlfried to have 'rough sex' with, and burns through two of them because he wants it too rough. All before he turns 16?

Great. Fantastic. LKH couldn't paint a better picture of someone who has been raped and the way they cope, since they all seem to cope in exactly the same way. Hell I'm surprised that Richard's mother isn't out doing the same thing.

Sure, some people would do something like that, desperate to regain the control they'd lost by being in that sort of situation and having the ability to say 'no' and have it heard and followed. But I doubt that will be the way she paints it.

This woman actually needs to talk to people who have been raped and maybe do some damn research for once.


Has anybody else noticed that where LKH used to inspire funny snarking, what with the Crotch-o-Doom, the multi-coloured harem and the grammatical/spelling lolz, she now inspires vitriolic snarking?

Is it me or is she getting worse?

Or are we just getting more bitter and jaded?

[shadwing.livejournal.com]

I think it's because she's doing things that are harder and harder to find funny, face it I don't think anybody can find something funny in the fact that Anita is advocating and apparently willing to have sex (Rough Sex at that) with a 14-15 year old rape victim in an apparent therapy attempt.

[kyalesyin.livejournal.com]

This: Further proof that LKH flails at life.

[fashi0n-mistake.livejournal.com]

My head bleeds. Ugh. LKH: Sinking to new lows since 2001.

[freyalorelei.livejournal.com]

...yeah, this kinda isn't funny anymore.

Every time I think LKH has hit bottom, she digs deeper. Before we all just rolled our eyes and pointed and laughed at the wacky antics of the crazy porn author with delusions of literary standing. Now it appears she's advocating abuse of minorities who have been previously abused in the first place. (Although you could argue she already went there with Nathaniel.) Because I'm sorry, a 29-year-old and a 14-year-old is FUCKING REPULSIVE no matter what your country's laws are, especially when that adult is in a position of authority, and advocating "rough sex" as therapy for a RAPE VICTIM...gah, I can't even begin to think about how many kinds of wrong this is.

The furry sex in ID, while distasteful, was at least between consenting adults. Pederastery? Not so much. She's crossed a line and she can't go back.

I'm wondering who on earth she thinks this will appeal to. This subplot will DEFINITELY get out into press reviews, and I imagine readers will cancel their orders in disgust.

Not to mention, LKH has a preteen daughter. How on earth does she think this kind of behaviour is acceptable? (Because if Anita does something, you know that Laurell personally approves of it.) Would she let Trinity have sex with someone twice her age in a few years? Or is Anita just so darn speshul that she's exempt from those pesky moral qualms and statutory laws?

I need to go dip my brain in Lysol to get the bad off.

[slayra.livejournal.com]

I know, it's so freaky. Is this what LKH thinks it's 'edgy'? But one thing she got right: I am now extremely uncomfortable reading her books. But I am not marveled, I am disgusted (never marveled to begin with). I mean, AB having sex with furry but imaginary beasts was weird... but I could take it. But AB/underage boy is just gross.

Still, there is no place in that spoiler where it says AB will in fact have sex with Peter. Just that he is sexually active, which is something most people really don't want to know about children/teens (except their parents I think).

This is some fucked up shit

[agatha-mandrake.livejournal.com]

It seems the whole "the-first-time-was-traumatic-so-every-time after-is-like-rape" thing is becoming a bit of theme. A screwed-up, creepy, intensely disturbing theme.

Get a goddamn therapist, Laurell!

Re: This is some fucked up shit

[ditaykan.livejournal.com]

Okay, confusion. First time == definitely traumatic... but if every time after is like rape, than why in hell would the traumatized/raped person actively SEEK IT OUT?

[slayra.livejournal.com]

Sorry, I may be misreading but where does it say that Anita will go for Pete or *shudders* have sex with him? It only says that Peter will have a crush on Anita (ugh, who would????!!!!) but not that she will return the feelings (that would be gross). Many teenagers have crushes on teachers or adults that they perceive as role-models (Anita Blake a role-model? Yuck.).

Now the thing about the rough sex and the two girlfriends is just weird. I don't know much on the subject of rape (thank God) but aren't victims of rape usually afraid of sexual contact and sex in general? I mean, how come Peter likes it rough because he was raped? I'm asking because I honestly have a doubt, not mocking anything or anyone (this is not a laughing matter).

Also... LKH we so do NOT want to learn about a 14-year-old having sex 'kthankx! Gross!

[shadwing.livejournal.com]

I think the fact it's being hinted at is what is freaking us out. Lets do the check list! Peter vs. The Harem

1) Emotionaly Scarred- CHECK
2) Sexually Abused- CHECK
3) Must have 'Rough Sex'- CHECK
4) Sexually/Physically attracted to Anita- CHECK

Right now the only difference between Peter and members of the Harem is that he's massively underaged. Let hope that she doesn't cross that line.

[hesper-m.livejournal.com]

You know, this crap is one of the big things that turned me off of Anne Rice early -- the recurring motif of a youngster, 13 or younger (in one book, 10!), who seeks out sex and knows what they're getting into and is in no way abused by entering into a sexual relationship with someone much older. (In the Witch books, the 13-yr-old who seduces Michael. In another book -- also a Witch? -- the 10-yr-old who becomes a prostitute. I'm sure there are many more, but I stopped reading a while ago.)

After a certain point, it isn't a motif, it's a psychological problem that needs to be dealt with. I don't know what LKH is processing from her youth, but there's something going on. Sorry, but for anyone, particularly the parent of a 12 or 13 yr old to think that this is normal, acceptable drama? She has deep-seated issues fighting their way to the surface. (By the way, I'm not suggesting that this means LKH was sexually abused. I think there can be many traumas that result in someone thinking that a young person getting involved in sex is empowering.)

[dinsedaledarby.livejournal.com]

What the hell is she thinking.. actually, don't answer that.
Why does she have to ruin every single character in the series? Who publishes this stuff?
I mean, it's one thing to write bad sex with the adult characters but Peter? Since when is this okay?

[teamlexana.livejournal.com]

WTF? Peter?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God, I hope it's just a ruse and Edward is using the kid to get close to Anita so that he can take the bitch out. She IS a monster now and that IS what he does... I think the series would be so much more interesting if LKH would just embrace the fact that Anita is now no better then Belle Morte or even Raina. Maybe make JC into a badass who's responsible for Anita's downfall. He is her pimp nowadays afterall.

[ladymuttly1.livejournal.com]

I read the section where she has sex with Richard and OMG does LKH have issues. Without wanting to get too graphic, they have such out of control sex that Anita is both bleeding and cramping from the sex. Not because some surface tissue may have ripped, I get the impression that she's talking bruising all the way up into the womb. (OUCH)

On the way out the door Richard kindly points out that most of Anita's harem, including JC, Nate, Jason and Richard himself were Raina victims and that there might be a reason why she is so attracted to these men. For the first time in about forever I wanted to say "YAY Richard. Score one for the whipping boy."

[teamlexana.livejournal.com]

Haha. Go Richard! Damn... I really gotta read that part! Damn you LKH!!!

[ellenel13.livejournal.com]

Isn't Peter Raphael's son? Because if he is, LKH will have crapped all over decency, she will also have destroyed Raphael's character. I could not respect a man who will probably ask Anita to rape his son(yes, screwing a rape victim who clearly has issues with sex is rape no matter how much he may "want it").

[ladymuttly1.livejournal.com]

Peter is Edward's adopted son from OB.

[daphne-gateau.livejournal.com]

... like everyone I am disgusted at what is happening to Peter. I would have to say the torture scene with Peter and his sister in OB were the only things in all the books that came close to pushing me out of my 'comfort zone' - to quote LKH's Negative Reader Rant.

What poster steffiebug said about LKH changing from just being lame to being sickly offensive started me thinking...

After what I've heard about Harlequin I wonder if she wasn't truly affected by the huge backlash to her rant and decided to show us how bad it can get. After Dear Neg Reader everywhere on the net people were saying 'bitch plz, you haven't approached my comfort zone, that sex is boring'. In Harlequin, I'm sure the sex will still be boring as hell and her prose will not have improved, but it sounds like LKH is pushing every possible line to offend people. Starting with Edward being tamed and joining the monster defense league, to Joseph's wife being vilified for not wanting to share her husband, now we have Peter coming back with major sexual issues - at 15. It's like she's just *trying* to offend the readers with anything she can wring out of her character list.

Is it for publicity? Is it because she'd like to 'show us' that she CAN do the things she alluded to in her Rant blog but found out that she can't actually write better books than she already does? Therefore she's just childishly going to throw in crazy hot button offensive issues to prove that she's 'edgy' and can push us out of that comfort zone, dagnabbit!

Sorry for blathering on. lol Back to Peter... I bet she will have sex OR she'll harken back to what I hated even MORE than the boring sex... 'metaphysical sex'. Remember all that 'healing' she used to do and angst about? I bet we dust off those skillz and she has to 'heal' Peter (maybe from those tiger scratches?) and use Raina/the munin... blah, blah, blah. I'm sure she'll end up victimizing Peter and there will be people encouraging her and a plot device 'forcing' her to do it.

[stefflebug.livejournal.com]

I think you might have hit the nail on the head.

Either she does actually think that this sort of thing is good and edgy, or she's putting it in there to push our buttons and get more press. As they say, no attention is bad attention to a person like her.

That and she's stated herself on more than one occasion that she likes to be 'contrary' to what people say or think. This would be an ideal, drama queen way of doing it.

And I too hate the 'metaphysical sex'. It was neat once, maybe twice, much in the same way her sex scenes weren't bad the first couple of times. But by the hundredth re-run of the same old thing, it got lamer than a lame thing.

[stefflebug.livejournal.com]

Kids are precious. They deserve every chance at some kind of peace in their childhood and teenage years that they can eek out.

Amen to this. I would literally go to the ends of the earth to ensure that any child of mine have a better childhood/teenage years than some of the people that I know have had, that to an extent I have had. Hell, I'd kill to make that happen.

Childhood may be a social construct but they deserve happyness and peace as much as they can.

Hiding a thing like that will kill you. Plain and simple. If it doesn't take your life it will rip out your soul and leave you empty. The best thing to do, no matter how hard is to find a way to share it with someone that you can trust and then trust them to help you heal yourself.

I just wish that LKH could heal herself of whatever is driving her to have to bang on and on about the things she does in the way that she does.

[kyalesyin.livejournal.com]

Has anyone actually considered that LKH might be trying to kill her career? That she's so far sick of the series that she's writing the best possible formula to turn people off? The best way possible to make people really want to not publish or buy the next book?

If she's really so smart and so good at marketing herself, then I can't see this being accidental. Is she so sick of the fact that she's surrounded by fangirls and idiots that she's blowing out her own hull in an attempt to sink herself?

Am I talking crazy?

[mardelwanda.livejournal.com]

I opened that tie I had to Jean-Claude. Opened it, and thought, where are you? I felt him, or saw him, or some other word that they hadn't invented yet, for seeing and feeling what someone else was doing in another room that you couldn't see, or know about.

Does anyone else find these sentences a little awkward?

[stefflebug.livejournal.com]

It's all a little awkward. The whole damn thing. Gah. She's getting worse with her writing skills, either losing (loosing) them left, right and center or the editors just can't be bothered to sort out her messes any more.