[identity profile] sweetalbatross.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] lkh_lashouts
Well, I was a fool and tried to read NiC.

Made it 200 pages, stopped, and banished the four books I owned to backs of my case right with SMeyer's work. Which did not hurt my head as much btw

I heard somewhere that in DM, Laurita has a pregnancy scare that winds up being just a scare. And since it's pretty much common knowledge LKH=AB it made me wonder if it was her way of playing God with the whole kid thing. If that makes sense. I mean, if Anita is wish fulfillment, does that mean she wishes she never got knocked up?

Anywhoo, back to what sent me here again. The buyer's remorse comment. My friend who got me into AB mentioned off-hand that in one book (blood noir maybe? she couldn't recall) that Anita waved off a girl who was raped as buyer's remorse.

WHAT THE HELL?

Slap, punch kick.

As someone who has been through something traumatic as a child, I have strong feelings about sexual abuse/assault and this makes me want to hurt someone. So when a man is raped its OMGTRAGIC but when you're a woman, it's buyer's remorse? Grrrrrrrrrrrrr. At least SMeyer didn't go there. Dear God woman! Does this apply to younger women as well? Hope not.

Sorry, I got really mad. I cut like 3/4 of my rant down though!
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Date: 2012-01-05 07:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-fellshot.livejournal.com
Please do. I would also read that to pieces.

Date: 2012-01-05 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadwing.livejournal.com
Yes she did, It was a post NiC with Edward, they talk about Peter...Edward's teenaged foster son...who was very rough and aggressive with two girls one was a virgin and one was not both claimed Peter hurt them and when they expressed that to him he kept going.

Anita said it "Sounded like Buyer's Remorse" with the first girl.

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Date: 2012-01-05 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadwing.livejournal.com
Not even the first time she's pulled this crap with rape victims, when Anita and Richard 'broke up' and he got a new GF he was pretty rough with her and she claimed it was rape. And Anita was pretty much calling for the woman's head because how DARE she...she just didnt' understand...ect.

No attempt by Anita (or anybody else) to TALK to the woman to get her side of the story was made.

Date: 2012-01-05 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jya-bd-cp-ttgb.livejournal.com
I think the book is The Harlequin, because the weretiger who attacked Peter was one of them, and Peter wasn't in Hit List.

Date: 2012-01-07 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daphne-gateau.livejournal.com
Yup. I remember Anita thinking this about Peter's girlfriends too. It's a jarring thought of hers that is treated offhandedly by the author. As if any tough, logical, pragmatic person would come to the same conclusion. Yuck.

I tried to fix this in my head, thinking Anita's attitude is evidence of just how much her own experiences with taking men against their will have damaged her. But I don't think LKH is that good of an author, nor that interested in giving Anita any kind of real flaw.

Date: 2012-01-05 04:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cryptaknight.livejournal.com
Is NiC the one where Anita handwaves her own rape, because of the Nimir Rah crap?

I really think Laurell needs some education on this. She comes across as a total misogynist, which is not what I think she wants. Anita started as a kick ass character, so I tend to think Laurell thinks she's writing strong women, but just fails miserably.

Date: 2012-01-05 07:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwg.livejournal.com
Laughably, it's in Hit List that one of the side-characters brings up, "maybe that guy is misogynist?" about this one cop's hate-boner for Anita. As far as I could tell, it was only directed at her and none of the other (albeit, few in number) female characters. And then there was a "golly, that's a big word for you to know!" but everyone agrees that it was misogyny and not anything Anita could have done. Even though up until that point, she's withheld vital information from the police that could save lives, tried to manipulate them into giving over their warrants so she can do the job (TO SAVE LIVES! Or something?! the point is that everyone else not good enough!), and blown off the task force for a booty call. The hate-on has some valid criticism sprinkled in there, but it's all dismissed with the same, "but I'm the best and you're just jealous."

Date: 2012-01-05 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] world-dancer.livejournal.com
Yes, but the wording was changed in the reprint.

If you want the Anita being raped scene, you have to check Wikipedia, I think it has the complete quote. Nope, I just looked and someone must have deleted that info.

Anyway, you need a first printing to get the dialog of Anita saying no.

Date: 2012-01-05 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cryptaknight.livejournal.com
Yes, I read the book when it was first released in hardcover, so I got the full effect D: Luckily I worked in a book store and it was something I borrowed, not something I paid for.

Date: 2012-01-09 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pandaemonaeum.livejournal.com
I unfortunately shelled out for a hardcover first edition.

After the infamous shower scene, I spent the rest of the book waiting for Anita to empty an entire clip into Micah for raping her, body and soul. I dumped the book in disgust when she didn't. :/ I still can't read much beyond NiC as I just read it as Anita 'acting out' as a victim following a fairly traumatic rape :(

Date: 2012-01-12 12:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenmeow.livejournal.com
Waiting for her to kill him was the only reason I read the whole thing. NiC was so terrible, you could skip chunks of pages and not miss anything, like missing a few weeks of a daily soap opera. Her treatment of sexual abuse survivors and her treatment of all things sexual in general makes me wonder. It's been speculated the first books were better because her ex-husband had a hand in them; I wonder if her current husband, who is the basis for the awful character of Micah, has a hand in the books since NiC. In that book Micah is originally one of the bad guys but Anita has her character lobotomized and he's around until the current book. That rape scene is vile and only the first of many rape scenes to come.
Do I need to draw a map to show where my train of thought is going here? (seriously, I'm not sure if I'm clear. I have newly diagnosed MS, it messes with thought logic)
How has LKH not heard from any trauma survivor organizations about the damage she does? Has she heard and thinks it's just like any pr is good pr?
She's not the only one who sucks here, I blame her publishers for letting this rape culture crap get out.

Date: 2012-01-19 05:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mariadeangeles.livejournal.com
Yeah seriously. Her first husband sounded a bit extreme too though, he had an issue with Anita and JC having a kiss scene and now she's on the complete opposite side of the spectrum. It's like she has no balance.I dont understand how she hasnt heard from any organizations either.

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