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lkh_lashoutsFirst, a disclaimer: These are the words and wisdom of only this mule, and this mule is NOT the community mod or anything. However, free speech and all, so here's my two cents. Don't spend it all in one place, mmkay? ;)
Dear community spy-
You have no control over this community, just as we have no control over your forums. This community and those forums are separate sites, run by separate people and maintained for separate though superficially similar reasons, and as such they should be treated as separate entities. If you wish to police what goes on in this community, then to be fair you must allow us to do likewise on your forums. Since I highly doubt you will be asking us what your people can and cannot post about us (and "us" is defined as "people who are displeased with LKH's writing for one reason or another") then please, do NOT tell people in this community what they may or may not post about you.
Furthermore, the post(s) which you seem to be offended by are not specifically insulting or derogatory...they are, in fact, NO MORE NOR LESS than a report of TRUTH. If you don't want people knowing what you are doing or saying, then maybe you shouldn't...yanno...DO OR SAY IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Also, as DWG pointed out, LKH herself said that if her fans (and yes, that is what we are, FANS, so get over it. We are not "haters," we are not "trolls," we are people who have bought and read the books and in doing so brought LKH to the status she now holds, and our oppinions AS FANS (or indeed as people in general) are as valid as anyone else's!) want to vent or rant or express displeasure about the books, to do so somewhere else. Well, Spyperson, this IS the somewhere else.
Lastly, we are breaking no rules, on your forums or otherwise. There is no rule, here or there, stating that one cannot share what is said to him or her. If someone chooses to repost something someone else sent to them, or said to them, or said in ANY public or semi-public forum, that is their right. It makes you and the forum moderator or moderators who are trying to police what is and is not posted on this UNRELATED COMMUNITY look like a bunch of crazy internet stalker people. You have really tarnished whatever remained of your positive reputation by being so childish.
No love,
K. Lawrence
Dear community spy-
You have no control over this community, just as we have no control over your forums. This community and those forums are separate sites, run by separate people and maintained for separate though superficially similar reasons, and as such they should be treated as separate entities. If you wish to police what goes on in this community, then to be fair you must allow us to do likewise on your forums. Since I highly doubt you will be asking us what your people can and cannot post about us (and "us" is defined as "people who are displeased with LKH's writing for one reason or another") then please, do NOT tell people in this community what they may or may not post about you.
Furthermore, the post(s) which you seem to be offended by are not specifically insulting or derogatory...they are, in fact, NO MORE NOR LESS than a report of TRUTH. If you don't want people knowing what you are doing or saying, then maybe you shouldn't...yanno...DO OR SAY IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Also, as DWG pointed out, LKH herself said that if her fans (and yes, that is what we are, FANS, so get over it. We are not "haters," we are not "trolls," we are people who have bought and read the books and in doing so brought LKH to the status she now holds, and our oppinions AS FANS (or indeed as people in general) are as valid as anyone else's!) want to vent or rant or express displeasure about the books, to do so somewhere else. Well, Spyperson, this IS the somewhere else.
Lastly, we are breaking no rules, on your forums or otherwise. There is no rule, here or there, stating that one cannot share what is said to him or her. If someone chooses to repost something someone else sent to them, or said to them, or said in ANY public or semi-public forum, that is their right. It makes you and the forum moderator or moderators who are trying to police what is and is not posted on this UNRELATED COMMUNITY look like a bunch of crazy internet stalker people. You have really tarnished whatever remained of your positive reputation by being so childish.
No love,
K. Lawrence
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Uhm
Date: 2006-07-13 06:37 am (UTC)And I am pretty sure if someone on the board I am modding would post pm's he got from another user, I would take them down, too. Cause PM= Private Message, they are thought to be private.
If you really need to, retell the facts, but don't copy the pm ... at least that's the rule at our board for situations like the one with the warning, for more private things it would be keep them private, start your war elsewhere.
But seriously do you really think it's so weird that they react angry? You are not allowed to post anything even remotely critic-like on the board so why should you be allowed to criticise the board itself?
Back on topic, Dear Spys, if you exist, don't get in our way. We are not harming LKH, hell we are even helping her because of our trainwreck mentality some of us still buy the books to snark about them.
No one I know of in this community would attack LKH in any way but verbally, and being an author is setting yourself up for critic, no matter what some people say. There is the job of the literal critic for a long time, because yes, you can money by giving good thoughtout (not always positive) reviews of books. You can study literature, and none of us is sitting in those courses and gushing at how good the work of so and so is, we criticise them, too. Big names like Shakespeare, Brontè, Austen, Wilde and so on. Even they are not safe from criticising literature students, or just readers, and from people dissecting their books. Not our fault that they don't get endresults like LKH. They used common grammar, spelling and plot development rules of their time. Their books had a plot. And so on and so on
This community is for the ones who want to be able and allowed to be critical about the books, and seriously with not using an editor and blatantly ignoring grammar, spelling, plot device and other rules and all critical fans you are going the wrong way.