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Link: Dead Ice: Nicky
Disclaimer: This blog entry is verbatim, as originally posted on LKH's blog. Copyright belongs to Ma Petite Enterprises.
We’re only two weeks away from Dead Ice’s publication. This blog will be the first one that doesn’t have a graphic novel image to go with it, because Nicky is one of several major characters that didn’t appear in the early books which were later turned into graphic novels. I’m trying to get images to go with Nicky and the rest, but for now his traditional lion form stands in for the other two forms.

Did you know that Nicky was going to be a major character when you created him?
Answer: No.
Secrets to Share: I didn’t expect to ever see him again because I thought Anita was going to have to kill him. He was just another sociopathic bad guy when he walked on stage from my imagination. I had no idea we were keeping him around until the very last minute and even then I had no idea that he would be in almost every book from that point on. Even keeping him, I didn’t know Nicky would go from bit player to supporting character to main character.
Question: Why did you do the rough bondage scene with Nicky and Anita in Affliction?
Answer: Because they are lovers, and both of them enjoy rough sex and bondage with each other.
Secret to Share: Nicky was fast becoming a fan favorite until I wrote that particular scene in Affliction. After the scene, a lot of the women fans disliked or even seemed to hate him. I was totally surprised by the reaction. Anita and Nicky had had rough sex before on stage, but some fans thought this scene was too much. Why? We’d had Anita tied up during sex before, and I believe that Nathaniel was even part of that scene, too, just as he was with Anita and Nicky in Affliction. So why the negative reaction? And none of the fans are angry with Nathaniel, just with Nicky, again why? The only difference I can see is that it’s a more serious breath play scene, which Nicky enjoys giving, and it was his suggestion to add that to the scene. I was very careful and very clear to have Anita and Nicky discuss what she was comfortable with beforehand. Nathaniel was there as an extra safety monitor and not just as an extra lover. I talked about safety issues, because breath play of any kind is edge play, which means it can be more dangerous. I did my due diligence on paper and Nicky and Nathaniel both watched over Anita to make sure she was all right. I talked about it, rather than just glossing over the possible problems. All three of them care for each other, and they all enjoyed the scene and the sex, so why did some people freak about it and start hating on Nicky? I don’t know, I honestly don’t, but some people who were fans of his are now literally haters of his, so apparently the scene hit issues for people.
Question: When will see Nicky interact with more of the local werelions?
Answer: In Dead Ice.
Secrets to Share: My research into real lions helped me shape Nicky taking over the local pride and how he runs it in Dead Ice. Contrary to the old idea of male lions as the “King of the Beasts” presiding over their territory and their harem of lionesses all by themselves, it’s rarely just one king. One lone male lion would be hard put to defend against all commers, most prides are run by a coalition of male lions. More detailed DNA testing has disproved another well loved theory in that the coalitions were genetically related, brothers, or at least cousins, but DNA proved that some weren’t related at all. Male lions are kicked out of the home territories as they come into sexual maturity, so they won’t compete with their father, or mate with their mother, or siblings. Theories are that the young male lions kicked out of their home territory meet up in their wanderings and find that hunting in groups helps them stay fed. They also fight as a group and that is a big plus among lions. In fact, prevailing theory is that the reason lions are social and live in groups is primarily to protect themselves from other lions. Also, if your lionesses like the lions in charge they will join the fight against intruding males. There have even been cases of lionesses banding together and fighting off males, so that they are a power unto themselves. It’s not common because the males are bigger, heavier, and just have more muscle to throw around, but the lionesses do most of the hunting. Males only usually come into their own on hunts when really big game is the main food source for the pride, like water buffalo, giraffe, and even elephants, on occasion. Real animals, and real science, helped me understand that Nicky was the muscle, but as a sociopath he emotionally couldn’t run a pride, so another male lion that was physically less able, but very good socially, joined him as part of his leadership coalition. By end of book we’ll add another, so he’s Rex, but it’s a three-for-one, not related to each other, just like a lot of real lion coalitions.
Sneak Peek from Dead Ice:
Nicky asked, “Do you mean you have pictures in your head of what you want to do to us?”
”Yes.”
”Are they your thoughts, or is someone putting them in your head?”
”I do not know, but even speaking with you now, it’s as if my pork dinner were talking back. I’d think I was mad, but I still want to eat it.”
”Eat me, you mean?” Nicky said.
”Yes, very much.” The southern drawl was thicker with every word, as if by the time he rushed us, or we shot him, he’d sound like Scarlett O’Hara.
”Interesting, Nicky, but save it,” I said.
”There won’t be a later for asking him questions.”
He was right, of course, but only a sociopath could have stood there this close, watching the process, and asked the questions that might help us understand what was happening. It was good that we had Nicky with us, because I was so spooked my mouth was dry.
Disclaimer: This blog entry is verbatim, as originally posted on LKH's blog. Copyright belongs to Ma Petite Enterprises.
We’re only two weeks away from Dead Ice’s publication. This blog will be the first one that doesn’t have a graphic novel image to go with it, because Nicky is one of several major characters that didn’t appear in the early books which were later turned into graphic novels. I’m trying to get images to go with Nicky and the rest, but for now his traditional lion form stands in for the other two forms.

Did you know that Nicky was going to be a major character when you created him?
Answer: No.
Secrets to Share: I didn’t expect to ever see him again because I thought Anita was going to have to kill him. He was just another sociopathic bad guy when he walked on stage from my imagination. I had no idea we were keeping him around until the very last minute and even then I had no idea that he would be in almost every book from that point on. Even keeping him, I didn’t know Nicky would go from bit player to supporting character to main character.
Question: Why did you do the rough bondage scene with Nicky and Anita in Affliction?
Answer: Because they are lovers, and both of them enjoy rough sex and bondage with each other.
Secret to Share: Nicky was fast becoming a fan favorite until I wrote that particular scene in Affliction. After the scene, a lot of the women fans disliked or even seemed to hate him. I was totally surprised by the reaction. Anita and Nicky had had rough sex before on stage, but some fans thought this scene was too much. Why? We’d had Anita tied up during sex before, and I believe that Nathaniel was even part of that scene, too, just as he was with Anita and Nicky in Affliction. So why the negative reaction? And none of the fans are angry with Nathaniel, just with Nicky, again why? The only difference I can see is that it’s a more serious breath play scene, which Nicky enjoys giving, and it was his suggestion to add that to the scene. I was very careful and very clear to have Anita and Nicky discuss what she was comfortable with beforehand. Nathaniel was there as an extra safety monitor and not just as an extra lover. I talked about safety issues, because breath play of any kind is edge play, which means it can be more dangerous. I did my due diligence on paper and Nicky and Nathaniel both watched over Anita to make sure she was all right. I talked about it, rather than just glossing over the possible problems. All three of them care for each other, and they all enjoyed the scene and the sex, so why did some people freak about it and start hating on Nicky? I don’t know, I honestly don’t, but some people who were fans of his are now literally haters of his, so apparently the scene hit issues for people.
Question: When will see Nicky interact with more of the local werelions?
Answer: In Dead Ice.
Secrets to Share: My research into real lions helped me shape Nicky taking over the local pride and how he runs it in Dead Ice. Contrary to the old idea of male lions as the “King of the Beasts” presiding over their territory and their harem of lionesses all by themselves, it’s rarely just one king. One lone male lion would be hard put to defend against all commers, most prides are run by a coalition of male lions. More detailed DNA testing has disproved another well loved theory in that the coalitions were genetically related, brothers, or at least cousins, but DNA proved that some weren’t related at all. Male lions are kicked out of the home territories as they come into sexual maturity, so they won’t compete with their father, or mate with their mother, or siblings. Theories are that the young male lions kicked out of their home territory meet up in their wanderings and find that hunting in groups helps them stay fed. They also fight as a group and that is a big plus among lions. In fact, prevailing theory is that the reason lions are social and live in groups is primarily to protect themselves from other lions. Also, if your lionesses like the lions in charge they will join the fight against intruding males. There have even been cases of lionesses banding together and fighting off males, so that they are a power unto themselves. It’s not common because the males are bigger, heavier, and just have more muscle to throw around, but the lionesses do most of the hunting. Males only usually come into their own on hunts when really big game is the main food source for the pride, like water buffalo, giraffe, and even elephants, on occasion. Real animals, and real science, helped me understand that Nicky was the muscle, but as a sociopath he emotionally couldn’t run a pride, so another male lion that was physically less able, but very good socially, joined him as part of his leadership coalition. By end of book we’ll add another, so he’s Rex, but it’s a three-for-one, not related to each other, just like a lot of real lion coalitions.
Sneak Peek from Dead Ice:
Nicky asked, “Do you mean you have pictures in your head of what you want to do to us?”
”Yes.”
”Are they your thoughts, or is someone putting them in your head?”
”I do not know, but even speaking with you now, it’s as if my pork dinner were talking back. I’d think I was mad, but I still want to eat it.”
”Eat me, you mean?” Nicky said.
”Yes, very much.” The southern drawl was thicker with every word, as if by the time he rushed us, or we shot him, he’d sound like Scarlett O’Hara.
”Interesting, Nicky, but save it,” I said.
”There won’t be a later for asking him questions.”
He was right, of course, but only a sociopath could have stood there this close, watching the process, and asked the questions that might help us understand what was happening. It was good that we had Nicky with us, because I was so spooked my mouth was dry.
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Date: 2015-05-28 11:30 am (UTC)And why is she so shocked that people didn't like the 'breathplay'? As far as I remember (and I skimmed a lot of that book), he was strangling her. She was panicking and he was getting off on it. Nathaniel was there telling him to make her face change colour. It didn't read like consensual sex, it read like rape. Even if they were both fully consenting and knew what they were getting into, it read like a rape scene. And for a character like Nicky, who I assume fans like because he's a dangerous man who is absolutely devoted to Anita's comfort and happiness, it seemed incredibly out of character as well. I think that LKH approaches all her sex scenes from a point of view of 'I know they love each other, are into it, and everything is perfectly safe', so she doesn't realise how what she's put on the page actually comes across.
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Date: 2015-05-28 07:39 pm (UTC)That breathplay thing is so fucked up too. I never read the scene, but I had a feeling, knowing her track record, that it wasn't going to be as "okay" as she thought it was.
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Date: 2015-05-28 07:56 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-05-28 11:54 am (UTC)Yes, it of course had to be those icky WOMEN fans!
only a sociopath could have stood there this close, watching the process, and asked the questions that might help us understand what was happening.
Ah yes, a standard sign of the sociopath is being able to stay calm in dire, dangerous, or disgusting situations, which other people can never ever do. This is definitely what "sociopath" means. By which I mean, WHAT IS THIS BULLSHIT?
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Date: 2015-05-29 03:22 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-05-28 02:03 pm (UTC)I'm no Professional Domme. But I do know enough about breath play to know how it was shown in Affliction was WRONG.
Last time I checked it is used for the pleasure of the Sub...you know the person being choked? The scene as I remember it focused very little on Anita's pleasure and almost entirely on Nicky's pleasure.
Nicky is a psychopath and a sadist. An ARC of Dead Ice is out there...and Nicky gets even worse if possible.
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Date: 2015-05-29 05:05 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2015-05-28 02:14 pm (UTC)No (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcJ0YIqnD50).
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Date: 2015-05-28 02:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-05-28 02:48 pm (UTC)Did you know that Nicky was going to be a major character when you created him?
Answer: No.
Okay, another thing I can get behind. That's happened to me in my own writing - characters who weren't supposed to be that important or interesting grab me as I develop them. Fair enough.
I didn’t expect to ever see him again because I thought Anita was going to have to kill him. He was just another sociopathic bad guy when he walked on stage from my imagination.
Wait, what? So, why didn't Anita kill him? Laurell, I know you like to "pretend" your characters are real, but they're not actually telling you the story - you're writing the story. You can change it. Oh, wait, that would require making revisions, which in turn would require you to get shit done on time, and that gets in the way of your oh-so-perfect life. Never mind.
Question: When will see Nicky interact with more of the local werelions?
Answer: In Dead Ice.
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He was right, of course, but only a sociopath could have stood there this close, watching the process, and asked the questions that might help us understand what was happening.
LaurellAnita? Please don't treat being a "sociopath" like it's a good thing. It's not. But you'd know that if you weren't probably a sociopath/psychopath yourself.re: the second secret
Okay, time for serious discussion. The fact that LKH apparently doesn't understand why some of her fans (and of course she has to specify that they're women, natch) were upset by the scene in question kinda scares me. I'm hoping that her not understanding is because she starts tuning people out the minute they start criticizing her work, but if not, then I'm worried. Because I doubt these fans were being in any way unclear about why it upset them so much.
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Date: 2015-05-28 03:05 pm (UTC)I think that in her mind for that scene since Nicky is hardwired to not kill Anita and Nate 'loves' her that is enough to keep Anita safe.
What LKH doesn't realize is that even in the most prepared BDSM situations things can still go wrong. So indulging in a dangerous BDSM play with no plan or prep is both stupid and possibly life threatening. Even something as 'safe' as rope play can have tragic consequences even if no harm is intended and all parties love and care for each other.
Too much pressure from Nicky in the wrong place or for too long could have given Anita brain damage at least or killed her.
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Date: 2015-05-28 03:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-05-28 03:19 pm (UTC)"Scarlett O'Hara"?
Fiddle dee dee. (https://youtu.be/NUzNiY0FgVE)
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Date: 2015-05-28 08:24 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2015-05-28 05:47 pm (UTC)Of course the haters are icky women. Eugh women, ammirite?
That bullshit on lion biology was too dense and so badly written. Is it bullshit justification on why there can't be interesting and powerful women in the series?
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Date: 2015-05-28 06:40 pm (UTC)*hate.
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Date: 2015-05-28 07:36 pm (UTC)Most people with APD aren't as capable as LKH think they are. Many of them can't hide it, like my uncle, so even if they're intelligent they still end up doing bullshit like my uncle did and getting themselves into trouble. They can't really plan for the future, at least not very well, because they're so focused on the here and now. Their consequences don't have actions in their minds. They have a very low threshold for dealing with frustration and anger. People that can't control anger aren't good in terrifying situations.
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Date: 2015-05-29 12:13 am (UTC)(Oh, but I forgot, if mentally ill people just "worked their shit" then it'd all be fine.)
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Date: 2015-05-28 08:13 pm (UTC)The so-called "breath play scene" was an example of What Not To Do. Ever. You irresponsible ignoramus, LKH. People die during breath play when it's not done properly, and YOU DO NOT DO BREATH PLAY WITHOUT SAFE WORDS. You shouldn't do ANY BDSM without safewords, but BREATH PLAY ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME PEOPLE WOULD DIE IF THEY FOLLOWED YOUR ADVICE. It doesn't matter how much they care for each other or how much they enjoy it. There is this thing called an "accident". I can't believe I have to use this phrase in this context, but intent is not fucking magic.
But I'm not a "hater" of Nicky, because Nicky is a total nonentity. Anita mindwiped him. He only does what she wants. He's literally nothing but a walking sex toy. I hate that LKH wrote him and thinks this is so edgy and awesome, but I only feel sorry for him.
My research into real lions
You mean calendars? Because if you did any more research than that, it sure didn't make it into your books.
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Date: 2015-05-28 08:31 pm (UTC)I'm tossing around ideas for an urban fantasy where wereleopards exist but are rare. Not because the disease is harder to catch than other strains, but because the instincts are so hard to deal with. Leopards are solitary, and humans are social creatures, and the two conflicting sets of instincts are almost impossible to reconcile. Wereleopards can't hold down office jobs, or any kind of job that requires them to be around people, so most work from home if they possibly can. Most struggle with romantic relationships, because the wereleopard side does not like having a permanent partner. There are therapists who deal specifically with wereleopards, and suport groups which primarily operate online. Businesses trying to cash in offer weekend retreats in the wilderness. Most business fire people wereleopards, after a couple of very well-publicised cases where one shifted and massacred everyone in the building. It's becoming common practice after a business won a court case where they claimed it was for the safety of their other employees.
But that isn't as interesting as rape and murder.
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Date: 2015-05-28 10:55 pm (UTC)I actually went back to the Amazon flogs. The scene was worse than I remember.
The plan is for Anita to be bound, gagged with Nicky choking her. While Nate bites her breasts till they bleed. Anita says that if they do that she won't be able to say the safe word or signal them to stop. To which Nate replies "That's the idea."
And she goes ahead ANYWAY because it's on Nate's Bucket List and she needs to feed the Ardon't ANYWAY...
*TWITCH*
I'll stop now
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Date: 2015-05-29 05:51 am (UTC)That right there is my issue with Nicky. LKH is trying to peddle that they're so in love and so into the same things and I'm just "REMEMBER THAT TIME WHEN ANITA RAPED HIM AND TOOK AWAY HIS FREE WILL BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT IT'D BE FUN AND TOTALLY GOT OFF ON IT?" Which I'm pretty sure is not a good foundation for a healthy relationship.
Then again, LKH has really sketchy ideas as to what constitutes consent, so of course we're supposed to buy that he's totally the bad boy transformed by the love of a good woman.
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Date: 2015-05-28 08:52 pm (UTC)...the fuck did I just read?
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Date: 2015-05-29 05:20 am (UTC)and moderately inbredextended family!(no subject)
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Date: 2015-05-29 07:03 pm (UTC)Honestly the only unifying theme in the books any more is a lack of responsibility; everything in-universe around the main characters is designed to allow them to do whatever they feel like at that moment, without taking responsibility for it in any fashion. It's a very childlike fantasy world in a way.
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