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Link: Jul 9 2014, 19:46
Disclaimer: This blog entry is verbatim, as originally posted on LKH's Facebook. Copyright belongs to Ma Petite Enterprises.
Target showing first hits for new guns. Jon may have won me to .45 ACP at long last.

Disclaimer: This blog entry is verbatim, as originally posted on LKH's Facebook. Copyright belongs to Ma Petite Enterprises.
Target showing first hits for new guns. Jon may have won me to .45 ACP at long last.

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Date: 2014-07-11 03:05 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2014-07-12 12:40 am (UTC)But he never tries to carry them where they are not needed, all guns are kept locked up and the ammo locked in a separate location in the house, and is as disgusted with the rare few who are making the sensible gun owners look bad.
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Date: 2014-07-12 07:08 pm (UTC)I hate guns. I grew up among people who hunted; one of them was killed with a gun while hunting at 13 years old. People who kill people with guns might (might) attack others anyway, but they would not be able to injure nearly as many people if they didn't have guns, let alone kill them. Guns are far deadlier than fists or knives. It's strange to me how so many people in the U.S. like to pretend technology doesn't matter when it comes to firearms.
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Date: 2014-07-11 07:06 pm (UTC)And I'd argue that how you view the "context" of the current gun issues in this country also depends on what parts of the country you "tend to think of" when you're framing your arguments. There are still places in this country where you absolutely need a gun because help really is that far away. Or your luck is really that monumentally bad. And there are socioeconomic levels/pockets in the U.S. where people actually do still mostly survive off of what they can hunt/kill. They can't afford to do anything else.
(Although I read an academic paper awhile back positing that it's not the access to guns - because we've always had that - but something that's gone wrong in our culture that's responsible for the current mess in the U.S.. The writer had recently visited (and observed in) a couple of modern, well-populated countries that have an average of as many as one gun for every three people, and those countries simply don't have our levels of gun violence. ONE of those countries had had ONE police shooting in the ENTIRE history of their country and EVERYONE even tangentially involved in the affair was given counseling at the government's expense because it was such a terrible and abhorrent thing in their culture. That the gun-flailing suspect had later DIED had the nation collectively breathing into a paper bag. The writer contrasted that with New York's police, who will absolutely shoot into a crowd of unarmed civilians at a fleeing suspects - and, at the time of the writing, there had been two such incidents within a single week.
But, assuming that the paper-writer was right, there MAY be something between the tendency of some people to ostentatiously flail and flash their weapons and the current amounts and types of gun violence in various parts of the U.S.)
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Date: 2014-07-11 07:24 pm (UTC)But I'm also aware it's a personal preference. I'm not advocating to take away people's guns or whatever, just because I don't like them. You don't need to convince me of anything, because I'm not standing in opposition to you, and as I said " I know there's nothing wrong with practicing with firearms recreationally, or being fascinated by the various types of firearms, their design, their history." That also extends to guns as a necessity for survival. I'm just saying that her posting this--on the heels of the Texas shooting--shows a remarkable lack of awareness and raises some issues that make me feel ill.
It is definitely a symptom that something has gone very wrong with our collective culture as a nation. And it won't be fixed until we fix that, instead of just trying to take guns out of the hands of people who would do horrible things with or without them anyway.
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Date: 2014-07-11 09:32 pm (UTC)...and I wasn't actually trying to convince you of anything. I put more effort into arguments/persuasive pieces. I thought it was an interesting tidbit and was sharing it.
But otherwise I probably agree with you?
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Date: 2014-07-11 09:54 pm (UTC)We do have very different personal / family cultures; my only disagreement is with your assumption that the culture I come from drives my current discomfort with guns. (And I mean "culture" as in environment more than anything to do with ethnicity or country of origin.) But otherwise, yeah, we're pretty much agreeing. It's more a "live and let live" thing, anyway.
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